1921 Census

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  1. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Possibly the WW1 records
    The 'Burnt Documents'

    The service records that survived the Arnside Street fire in September 1940 - the so-called 'Burnt Documents' - are located in the series WO 363. Due to fire and water damage, they are too delicate to be handled and are consequently only available to the public on microfilm.

    Microfilming the 'Burnt Documents' has been a huge project, for which The National Archives has received valuable financial support from the Heritage Lottery Fund. The microfilm catalogues, which are mostly arranged alphabetically by surname, cover soldiers who completed their service between 1914 and 1920. They might have been killed in action, discharged on medical grounds without a pension, or demobilised at the end of the war.
    The National Archives | Exhibitions & Learning online | First World War | Service records



    The 1921 Census

    The 1921 Census for England, Wales and Scotland was taken on the night of Sunday 19th June 1921.

    It had been originally planned that the census would be taken on the night of 24th April 1921 but this was delayed because of strikes.

    Extra questions asked over the 1911 Census included:

    • whether a marriage has been dissolved by divorce
    • where each person works
    • the industry within which someone works
    The question introduced in 1911 about the number of children was dropped, the reason given was that the results from the previous census had not yet been tabulated. Also the question about blindness, deafness or dumbness were removed on the grounds that the parents had objected to giving this information about their children with the result that answers given in the previous census were unreliable.

    There are more details on our sister site, www.1921census.org.uk.

    There was no 1921 Census of Ireland The next census both for the Irish Free State and Northern Ireland, which remained part of the United Kingdom, was taken in 1926. In Northern Ireland, the census was taken on the night of 18/19 April 1926 with the police used as enumerators. The census for The Irish Free State was taken on the same night.
    The 1921 Census
     
  3. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    1931 census was also lost during WW2 so 1921 census will be the last one until the 1951 census becomes available in 2051/52.......

    Steve
     
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  4. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Thanks Clive & Steve. I knew somebody was going to be without census data for a few decades. It's been a while since I delved into Irish roots.

    Will be a useful database when it's released.

    Thank again - Maria
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    In theory the 1931 census for England & Wales would have been available for public access in 2032 or perhaps earlier if rules were to be changed. However that is not to be.

    On the night of Saturday 19 December 1942, there was a fire at a store in Hayes, Middlesex. The store, the responsibility of the Office of Works, contained a large amount of furniture but in addition it contained the census records for England & Wales for 1931, that is the whole of the schedules, enumeration books and plans. They were all completely destroyed.

    (Note that the census for Scotland was not affected by this fire since it was stored separately in Edinburgh).
    The 1931 Census
     
  6. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    The tender was advertised at 10.49 am on Thursday 11th ( yesterday) and the link posted here less than six hours later, congratulations to amberdog for spotting it.

    Fascinating how Kew expect the contract to pan out from the limited details I've looked at:

    "Price is not the only award criterion" : ( ?!)

    "Estimated total value", only applicable to the "initial contract term", ( ten years from 31/5/2018 to 30/5/2028 ) a mere £20,000,000 ( excluding VAT)

    Rather hazy description of subsequent contract terms, no estimated total value given, but up to four five year periods, so 31/5/2028 to 30/5/2033, second to 30/5/2038, third to 30/5/2043, and fourth to 30/5/2048.

    I imagine that the lights will be burning at the offices of Ancestry and FMP until the tender is submitted ( by 5 pm on Thursday 8th February 2018 ) and in the offices of any other entity who can " demonstrate eligibility", viz:

    "To demonstrate eligibility to be considered for this tender, potential Suppliers must demonstrate:

    a) Experience of managing and completing large-scale digitisation projects of heritage material;

    b) Online publication of heritage material specifically for use by the Family History Market;

    c) Viable commercial models that return an income stream to licensor partners."

    At a pinch, this could mean the dedicated souls who run WW2 Talk..., ably assisted by the members who can actually understand how to get the best out of digital records ( excludes me.)

    At 10 pence a page, say 50 million pages, how much would it cost to take a photo of each page ? £5,000,000.

    Hang on, aren't there are lots of households on a page...?

    How do they get to an estimate of £20,000,000 ?

    I'm always suspicious of figures with lots of noughts.
     

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