161st Heavy AA Reg

Discussion in 'Royal Artillery' started by Jamesb1974, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. Jamesb1974

    Jamesb1974 Junior Member

    Hello all,

    I'm a newbie to this forum and have been handed some of my late grandfather's military records by my father. There are a couple of abbreviations and other things that make no sense to either of us. Are any of you good people sufficiently worldly wise to assist in decoding the spidery writing?!

    My grandfather was posted to 211th AA training Rgt on 5/2/42, before being further posted to 447th HAA battalion, Oswestry. Following that, he was again posted to 161st HAA rgt at Weybourne on 22/6/42.

    This is where the abbreviations start to come into play!

    22/6/42 - Granted 9 days privilege leave with RA (Royal Artillery?) at SLR week ending 22/6/42. Who, what or where was SLR?

    5/10/42 - Granted WTPP week ending 10/8/42 at 6d per day.

    Again, what, where or who was WTPP? I have found several references to WTP, but no WTPP.

    26/11/42- Admitted to AAMP Gorleston wef 23/11/42.

    30/11/42 - Discharged from AAMP Gorleston and then attended Medical board at Northampton. Paraded in medical board and downgraded from A2 to B7.

    I'm assuming Gorleston was a military hospital, but was is AAMP? Also, how to the medical gradings work?

    I assume A1/A2 is fully fit, but what is B7? What kind of injury/illness would be classified as B7?

    26/11/44 - Reprimanded for failing to appear on parafe on 19/11/44.

    24/3/45 - Attended no42 Provost course at no 10 Mil ??? bks 5-24 March 45 Result Q1.

    I assume that No 42 provost is a military punishment facility? No 10 military barracks, again where was that? And what is 'result Q1'?

    And the final piece, 21/3/46 - Attended course, serial BAP3 21/2/46 - 11/3/46 at AA school 'Mandlow' (???) Result BY.

    Any and all help in decoding these messages would be gratefully received.

    Thanks very much, James
     
  2. Derek Barton

    Derek Barton Senior Member

    James, welcome to the forum. The full title for 211 Rgt was 211 Heavy AA (Mixed) Training Regiment Royal Artillery. The (Mixed) means both RA men and ATS women. The posting to 447 Battery (not Battalion) would be a posting within 211 Rgt.

    Your AA school Mandlow is almost certainly Manobier in Pembrokshire which was the AA School from 1939 to 1971.

    Sorry I can't help with the rest.
     
  3. blacksnake

    blacksnake As old as I feel.

    James... I see you've discovered the Armies love of TLA's (Three Letter Acronyms)....:huh:

    SLR - Aside the obvious Self Loading Rifle... I think your reference is either Service Level Review or Special Limited Reserve.

    AAMP - Advanced Aircraft Maneuvering Plan.

    That's all I've got....

    On the subject of TLAs... There's a prize for anyone who can decipher this (from a military battle report, Afghanistan 2007)

    "Using ISTAR, FF, PID, EF on MSR and engaged with SAF!" :D

    When I say 'prizes' I refer to either a chocolate tea-pot or the much sort after ashtray for ones motorbike! ;)
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    On the subject of TLAs... There's a prize for anyone who can decipher this (from a military battle report, Afghanistan 2007)



    Probably better to start a thread in post war but whats the full context?
     
  5. blacksnake

    blacksnake As old as I feel.

    Drew... The full context is a report from a Platoon patrolling the "Green Zone" Helmand Province, after a contact with Enemy Forces (EF)... I'll start you off with: "Using ISTAR... Information, Surveillance, Targeting, Acquisition and Reconnaissance."............
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine Junior Member

    I have been following the quest to find the meaning of WTPP on this thread as I too have been trying to figure out this particular facet of "Armyeese". At first I thought it may have been "Weapons Training Privelige Pass" but now I think it may have been "Welfare Time Private and Personal" The grant of such appears to be co-incidental with personal strife of the serving soldier. I too have my father's record from WW2,he was at Dorking with 107 Bridge Coy,RASC on 12th September 1942 when it was granted to him and that was shortly after a heavy bombing raid on Birmingham where his family lived. It seems it can be leave or of monetary value[hardship] as I found one instance of 6d/day being granted. The grant of WTPP is not questioned by anyone which is probably why very few know what it is. It is certainly not on the "official Abreviation list" I got from Brown Street,Glasgow.

    WOLVERINE
     
  7. idler

    idler GeneralList Patron

    22/6/42 - Granted 9 days privilege leave with RA (Royal Artillery?) at SLR week ending 22/6/42.

    "... with Ration Allowance at something something Rate..."?
     
  8. Woodthorpe House

    Woodthorpe House Junior Member

    Following that, he was again posted to 161st HAA rgt at Weybourne on 22/6/42.


    Does anyone know anything about this regiment being based at Woodthorpe House, Sherwood, Nottingham? It has been reported in local history books that the 161 were there, but we've not been able to find out where this information came from. I'd be grateful if anyone could let me know. Thanks.
     

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