14437714 Rifleman William James MURPHY, 2nd Bn. The London Irish Rifles: 21/10/1944

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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    Casualty Details | CWGC
    MURPHY, WILLIAM JAMES
    Rank: Rifleman
    Service No: 14437714
    Regiment/Service: Royal Ulster Rifles, 2nd Bn. The London Irish Rifles
    Date of Death: 21/10/1944
    Age: 20
    Cemetery: SANTERNO VALLEY WAR CEMETERY
    Grave Reference: I, G, 13.
    Location: Italy
    Additional Information: Son of William James Murphy and Marion Murphy, of Portadown, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland.
    Personal Inscription: SACRED HEART OF JESUS HAVE MERCY ON HIS SOUL R.I.P.
     
    CL1, Oct 21, 2012
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  2. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    Rifleman Murphy was killed along with 8 other London Irishmen in the attack on Casa Spinello, south of Monte Spaduro.

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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Stupid question

    CWGC have him as a Rifleman - the memorial has him as Pte

    Why the difference?

    TD
     
    Tricky Dicky, Apr 8, 2019
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  5. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    I can only assume that he signed on as a Private and when issued with a General Service Number..but when he was assigned to 2 LIR, in 1944 most probably, he most certainly became a Rifleman..and is thus stated on the LIR's War Memorial... and similarly is "strangely" noted as a Royal Ulster Rifleman on the Memorial inconsistent with Rfn McClatchey being shown as a London Irish Rifleman.. both serving with the LIR when they were killed in Italy.

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  6. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Possibly details were 'as submitted' by family etc, to committee in charge of adding the WW2 panels.

    I think that could explain the LIR/RUR difference as well.




    Also on Portadown memorial:
    Casualty
    Rifleman MCCLATCHEY, DAVID
    Service Number 7902391
    Died 10/08/1943
    Aged 30
    2nd Bn. The London Irish Rifles, Royal Ulster Rifles
    Commemorated at CASSINO MEMORIAL
    Location: Italy
    Cemetery/memorial reference: Panel 11.
     
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