11 Air Formation Signals

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  1. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Mike, I've struggled slightly to find an establishment for 11 AFS and details of where they fitted into the scheme of things, but I'm not quite sure where to look. My Dad's service record shows him embarking UK 25/6/1944 (it seems to have been corrected from 23/6/1944) and this is also the date shown for service abroad.

    This would suggest an arrival in France on 26th June or afterwards. Do you know when the Mulberry LST pier was completed ? Dad recalls that they travelled in an LST but were discharged on the beach (probably closer to Asnelles than Arromanches). This was of course after the big storm.

    I'd also be interested in the vehicles available to them. He recalls being seated behind the driver but with a view out to his right as they landed. Are they likely to have used something like CMP HUWs ?
     
  2. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Rich,

    I do not think you will find a War Establishment for 11 Air Formation Signals as such. This was the army unit which provided line communications for 83 Group 2 Tactical Air Force. As such it had a headquarters and a number of signals sections. These was a basic allocation of units but this could be added to as and when necessary.

    AIR FORMATION SIGNALS
    Air Formation Signals were a normal army signals unit providing communications for the Tactical Air Force. They were responsible for all communications to airfields and TAF headquarters.

    The following signals sections were attached as a basic scale. These could be modified as required.

    1 X Headquarters Signals WE III/312/1
    2 X Line Section WE III/23/4
    2 X Construction Section WE III/24/5
    2 X Line Maintenance Section WE III/30C/3
    3 X Telegraph Operating Section WE III/25A/3
    2 X Despatch Rider Section WE III/268/1
    1 X Technical Maintenance Section WE III/30D/4
    5 X Wing Section WE/29C/2

    The various sections, or part sections, went to France as required. The first landed on D Day to provide communications for Group Control Centre. Others followed as 83 Group gradually occupied airfields in Normandy.

    In late June LSTs were still landing on the beaches. Mainly Item Beach which was actually inside the Mulberry breakwaters but still operated by 104 Beach Sub Area.

    MIke

    PS. Usually two or three Company Headquarters were also provided to administer the sections.
    PPS. Lists of vehicles are available in the 21 Army Group section.
     
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  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    From The Royal Corps of Signals-Unit Histories of the Corps:

    Air Formation Signal Regiment consisted of the following:

    2 Line Troops
    2 Construction Troops
    2 Terminal Equipment Troops
    3 Telegraph Operating Troops
    2 Despatch Rider Troops
    1 Technical Maintenance Troop
    5 Wing Troops

    Edit: Mike beat me to it :)
     
  5. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Thanks, Chaps. I believe that he was part of a Tele-Op section supporting 39 Recce Wing. Item Beach fits exactly as we have pretty well pinned down that he came ashore at Saint-Côme-de-Fresné.

    Is there likely to be any chance of tracing LST allocation for D+20 ?

    11 AFS Diary is not really a war diary in the normal sense, more a technical log. He had been transferred by late 1945.
     
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  6. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Rich,

    I have not seen any craft or ship landing tables after the first few days. I have seen landing tables for individual units. These show which personnel and vehicles were scheduled to sail on which days, but not which craft or ship. After the first few days it was not possible to predict which craft or ships would be available. Where I have seen them they have been attached to the War Diary.

    Mike
     

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