10th ind. & 4th ind. Division Arezzo

Discussion in 'Italy' started by Lorenzo -- Campus, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. Hi to all,
    i'm looking for some map, war record, diary, photo and all material about the provice of Arezzo,city Subbiano, Catenaia alps and Casentino for a University Research.
    thanks to all
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  3. Hello!
    yes, I read both that from Tehran to Trieste and also Red Eagle, they are quite vague ..... I would need something more precise, the best would be a map with the camps and information on the clashes and the precise places.
    even some photos would be fantastic, especially of subbiano and Catenaia
     
  4. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Ciao Lorenzo,

    I have just re-read that part of The Tiger Triumphs and it gives you the names of all the units from 10 Indian Division involved in fighting on the Alpe di Catenaia.

    I suggest that for a start you obtain the war diaries of the Brigades involved - 20th and 25th - and also those of the Lovat Scouts and Skinners Horse from the National Archives, London. It is cheaper if you ask a researcher to get them for you.

    Here are the ones you need:

    WO 169/18875
    Central Mediterranean Forces: Brigades: 20 Indian Infantry Brigade: HQ

    WO 169/18890
    Central Mediterranean Forces: Brigades: 25 Indian Infantry Brigade: HQ

    WO 170/1423:
    Lovat Scouts:1944 July – Dec.

    WO 169/18943:
    Indian Cavalry and Armoured Corps: 1 Skinner's Horse:1944 Jan.- Dec.

    There may not be a map but there should be map references.

    You can find the relevant maps on:

    1. Home >Digital Archive @ McMaster University LibraryMap CollectionsWorld War, 1939-1945WWII Topographic MapsItaly
    Vitellino
     
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  5. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

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  6. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Chris, Lorenzo disappeared from the scene after 9 March 2020. However, I do need to refer to The Tiger Triumphs from time to time so your post is particularly useful to me,

    Vitellino
     
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  7. Owen

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  8. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    You could try and obtain a reprint of the Official History of the Indian Armed Forces in the Second World War 1939-45. THE CAMPAIGN IN ITALY 1943-45. Historical Section (India & Pakistan) By DHARM PAL, PH.D. If you require the War Diaries of 4 Indian Infantry Division for this period then start a conversation with me, with your email address and I will email them over.

    Edit: I waited years to buy a original copy (which cost a small mortgage) in a decent condition.
    Regards,
    Stu.
     
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  9. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    I PMed you regarding the Indian Official History volume, The Campaign in Italy.
     
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  10. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Many thanks for the links above even though you posted this a while back. Into a shop soon to get all of my documents etc transfered from my old laptop to a all singing and dancing new one.
    Sack that for doing it yourself ( It takes a long time when one is useless).. Plus he will connect my new printer.;)

    Must ask how I save that link?
    Ta
    Stu.
     
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  11. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Stu, you should be able to bookmark just the Italy link if that is what you want. Just right click (presumably) on "Italy".
     
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  12. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Not having ones printer/ scanner is like not having a laptop to me has strange has it comes across. The new printer/ scanner will make life easier for me when it comes to copying anything on the books that I have.

    The top of range phones are OK when it comes to taking photos of what ever. You need a bloody tripod.

    Chris,
    Thanks.
    Stu
     
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