на підтримку України-In Support of Ukraine

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  1. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Of course it is:
    I was merely describing a historical analogy, hence the deliberate oversimplification.
    Much will depend on how the RA actually deploys its troops.
     
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  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I may have to order one of these. :unsure:

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  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    They already have.
    Salisbury 2018. :(
     
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  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    They were ecclesiastical building fanboys! Everyone knows this. :unsure:
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    or this

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  6. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

  7. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Well-Known Member

    History repeating itself:
    Letter Written by Lt Beadle to his brother in1941 discussing current affairs.

    I suggest you review the facts of the situation at the present time and draw the obvious conclusions.
    The fact that the cost of living has gone up more than 25% - that any working class movement that has the guts is pressing for wage increases;
    that the country is spending 6-9 million’s a day; that to preserve the present system of wages and profits is impossible;
    that Simon and the Times are saying “the rich can pay no more. The poor must pay”.
    This is the “classic” class war of Marx and Lenin – whom I fear you haven’t read.
    The result of this war will be either capitulation by Simon et al and readjustment of the economic system on a more socialistic basis; or your military dictatorship; suppression of trade unions, vicious spirals, electoral rights and demands for wages.
    “Getting down to rationing in earnest” as you suggest is the reason for our gloomy leaders.
    Whether they are Machiavellian enough to intend at the same time to prepare us for the road that France has taken, is open to question. Personally I think that Chamberlain is honest enough in his way and therefore all the more dangerous. He might well resign in order to give way to a more “forcible” administration but the fact would remain that he and his pals had prepared the ground for the totalitarians.

    They were soon to be Lieutenants in the Royal Artillery, only one of them came home.
     
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  8. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    "Many a fine word said in jest". The current Ukraine War is, in my mind, all about control of natural resources and infrastructure (that Mariupol coastal strip etc).... so Alaska would be a natural step...after other 'former Russian' territories such as Finland...
     
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  9. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Well-Known Member

    During the months and days under siege and surrounded at Anzio Lt Beadle (previously an advertising executive) along with his Troop Leader, produced their own Propaganda leaflets to fire over the enemy from their field guns, to counter the German leaflets which they cut up for the pin up pictures, on their dugout walls.
    Their message if turned around, would not be lost in forthcoming battles today.

    Written in April 1944

    This message comes from a British troop of artillery.
    We read many of the leaflets you shoot at us and find them very entertaining.
    We listen to your radio and appreciate Sally and the music she provides for us.
    But do not think that we are downhearted or desperate because we have stayed so long.
    You say you have us surrounded. But think for a moment and you will realise how much more completely you are surrounded by strong armies or hostile peoples in all corners of Europe.
    The least of your worries perhaps.
    But it is a painful pinprick and only one of many wounds which will eventually destroy you.
    For we British and American soldiers have now the weapons which we lacked in 1940 when Hitler wasted your hopes of victory by attacking Russia instead of England.
    Soon there will be new and more terrible Stalingrad’s, fresh reminders of Tunis, Odessa and Naples.

    But we ordinary soldiers like yourselves would far sooner see a speedy end to blood and destruction than a dozen more Stalingrad’s.
    We admire your discipline, your willingness to die to the last man.
    But we ask, what good can that do Germany now? Except to satisfy the pride of your leaders.
     
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  10. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

  11. alberk

    alberk Well-Known Member

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  12. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Russian material losses as of today 13/04/2022 compared with those of 2 day ago - 11/04/22
    (according to Oryx - these are just verified losses, real numbers are probably higher):


    Total: 2884

    Tanks 505 (+29)
    Armoured Fighting Vehicles 263 (+7)
    Infantry Fighting Vehicles 520 (+23)
    Armoured Personnel Carriers 97 (+1)
    Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles 22 (+1)
    Infantry Mobility Vehicles 91
    Command posts & Communications Stations 62 (+1)
    Engineering Vehicles 110 (+4)
    Heavy Mortars 11
    Towed Artillery 54 (+1)
    Self-Propelled Artillery 97 (+1)
    Multiple Rocket Launchers 55 (+6)
    Anti-Aircraft Guns 4
    Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Guns 14
    Surface-To-Air Missile Systems 52 (+1)
    Radars 10 (+1)
    Jammers And Deception Systems 7
    Aircraft 20
    Helicopters 32
    Unmanned Aerial Vehicles 28
    Naval Ships 4 (+1)
    Logistics Trains 2
    Trucks, Vehicles and Jeeps 823 (+ 33)
    Unknown vehicles 44 (+8)

    NB. Oryx stopped the count of Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (76) and Man-Portable Air Defence Systems (24 ); they are no longer listed but the last registrated numbers still are included in the total score.



    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake

    Sun Tzu
     
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  13. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

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    Deep-Fake! It's all bogus ... staged by the Ukrainian 'facist' nation; it's all their fault (and the West's) ... yeah, yeah :pipe:.
     
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  14. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Reports are now that the DPR/LPR has been fully mobilised, which may end up supplying the cannon fodder, sorry infantry needed, in the form of over 40 BTGs.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
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  15. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Will soon find out if they sacrifice the poor bastards in the first wave to spare their main fighting units or if they are used as mopping up units.
    If the RA goes back to tried and tested traditions, the former is to be suspected.
     
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  16. alberk

    alberk Well-Known Member

  17. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    The long and the short views of the two armies:

    1. Two different armies observed by a US Army general: I Commanded U.S. Army Europe. Here's What I Saw in the Russian and Ukrainian Armies.

    2. The Russian army has had its fair share of military disasters with its most recent in Ukraine being a clear product of a system that refuses to accept the truth and only deals in exercising unlimited power. An essay by Dr. Rob Johnson, CCW @ Oxford University and link: Ukraine is the latest disaster in a long history of Russian military dysfunction
     
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  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  19. Today, 49th day of the Russian invasion, confirmed Russian MBT losses just passed the 500 mark (504 tanks destroyed, abandoned or captured), still one day ahead of the average 10 tanks lost per day, including 65 T-80 types from 4th Tank Division.
     
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  20. sol

    sol Very Senior Member

    Those are just T-80U variants. Number of listed T-80BVs also belong to that division as its MR regiment's tank battalion is equipped with T-80BV and T-80BVM, unlike two tanks regiment which are using T-80U.
     
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