Hitlerite obsession

Discussion in 'Historiography' started by von Poop, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Debate on the significance of WW2 in 'History':

    Dr Nick Lloyd: “The world wars’ central place in British memory and identity is right, proper and perfectly understandable”

    Dr Tracy Borman: “Fixation with the world wars – significant though they were – gives a distorted view of British history”

    Debate: Is British history too fixated with the story of the world wars?
     
  2. von Poop

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  3. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Oh god. Yes, you need to be able to shut off that stuff and talk about everything else in life.
     
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  4. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Shucks, even I know not everyone has an in interest in 75 year old history...or history in general, for that matter.

    However, I still don't miss the opportunities each semester to goad my eldest, who is receiving her BS in some phase of history in December, by asking what subject of WWII they are studying. Apparently it is not heavily scheduled topic at her college.
     
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    Robert-w Banned

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  8. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Some time ago I heard an interview on the radio with a guy who used to work as a safe cracker in occupied France. His main role to to allow the Resistance to access documents in the offices of various German officials without the latter being aware that this had happened. This meant having to suss out the combinations of many safes. He said that one of the first ones to try was based on 2004
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    My favourite Hitler's birthday is his 1945 one.
    Middle-aged birthdays seem to trigger a certain amount of introspection.
    Introspect that, Adolf:
    [April 20, 1945], HQ Twelfth Army Group situation map.

    And on the thread theme.
    Think I've seen more people lazily called a Nazi and compared to Hitler in the last few years than I ever noticed before.
    The obsession isn't really going away.

    Dodgy business.
    The more the accusation is used unjustifiably, the weaker its power.
    Once everyone you don't like is a Nazi/Hitler, nobody is.
     
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  10. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    Yes, which makes the work of real fascists and Nazis easier for them and harder for the rest of us to detect.
     
  11. Owen

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    A film from Ghana.

     
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  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  15. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Watch it Grandma ,the Government will arrest you o_O


    Kyle
     
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  16. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Anophthalmus hitleri - Wikipedia

    Anophthalmus_hitleri_HabitusDors.jpg

    "The scientific name of the beetle comes from an Austrian collector, Oskar Scheibel, who was sold a specimen of a then undocumented species in 1933. Its species name was made a dedication to Adolf Hitler, who had recently become Chancellor of Germany. The genus name means eyeless, so the full name can be translated as "the eyeless one of Hitler". The dedication did not go unnoticed by the Führer, who sent Scheibel a letter showing his gratitude"
     
  17. Owen

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    Another super animation.


     
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  18. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Adolf's normal voice:
     
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  19. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    My view on this is that Hitler will be the only figure from the 20th Century who will still be widely remembered in 2000 years' time. The basic problem is that he was by far the most charismatic person of the 20th Century, an era that promoted charismatic individuals like no other. He was like a thousand Elvis Presleys concentrated into one person. The ceaseless mockery of his quirks, such as his moustache, the goose-stepping etc., is a doomed attempt to try to belittle this charisma.

    I also think that the promotion of Gandhi, MLK, Nelson Mandela in the post-war period was an attempt to create anti-Hitlers, charismatic men who were the polar antithesis of Hitler, but again, they seem to be relatively small figures in comparison to Adolf. Hitler will pass into myth like Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun and Caligula while the good guys will fade into oblivion.

    It's notable that in modern Mongolia they have been building enormous statues to Genghis Khan, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if many centuries hence we see similar statues to Hitler being built. It may seem unthinkable now, but his mythical status will only grow, and the liberal-progressive morality of the contemporary West, which puts him well beyond the pale, is not going to last forever. I sometimes wonder if this was Hitler's intention all along - not so much to build a greater Germany but to make himself a kind of baleful icon of the worst of humanity. In many ways I think that he ultimately won.
     
  20. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    If it had only been Hitler alone... The problem was much, much deeper:
    Albert Kesselring at a meeting of the "Stahlhelm" Veterans Organisation - 1952!!!
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