Hi, Does anyone have official references as to the criteria determining the inclusion of a casuality on a Roll of Honour? Unofficially I an told that the casuality must have died due to enemy action or from an accident occuring during his enlistment. Additionally, if either occurred whilst in service with the unit to which he was first posted, or while serving in a unit to which he was subsequently posted, his name shall appear on the Rolls of Honour of both. My reason for asking is due a reluctance to include the names of three on the NIH Roll of Honour. For details please see: WW II Any help will be much appreciated. Gerry
Hi Gerry, I moved your query to the 'Non-commemorated; section as it seems appropriate to here. Maybe Chris or someone who's specialised in such criteria will have the gen on it. Cheers, Adam.
Hi Gerry, I think Chrisharley9 maybe able to help you on this one if no one posts on here. Cheers Andy 60 seconds to slow
Hi, Does anyone have official references as to the criteria determining the inclusion of a casuality on a Roll of Honour? Unofficially I an told that the casuality must have died due to enemy action or from an accident occuring during his enlistment. Additionally, if either occurred whilst in service with the unit to which he was first posted, or while serving in a unit to which he was subsequently posted, his name shall appear on the Rolls of Honour of both. My reason for asking is due a reluctance to include the names of three on the NIH Roll of Honour. For details please see: WW II Any help will be much appreciated. Gerry The three are commemorated by CWGC. To qualify for this they must have either died due to any cause while still in service between 3.9.1939 and 31.12.1947, or due to a condition caused by or exacerbated by service if discharged within this period. You need to find out what is the Official criteria for inclusion in NIH ROH. Who set it up, what are the rules for inclusion? Perhaps these three don't meet the unofficial conditions you mentioned.
The three are commemorated by CWGC. To qualify for this they must have either died due to any cause while still in service between 3.9.1939 and 31.12.1947, or due to a condition caused by or exacerbated by service if discharged within this period. You need to find out what is the Official criteria for inclusion in NIH ROH. Who set it up, what are the rules for inclusion? Perhaps these three don't meet the unofficial conditions you mentioned. Thank you Geoff you response is greatly appreciated Both the troopers, who crewed the same tank, were badly burned and evacuated to the UK. Sadly neither recovered and, in reponse of requests from the families, were buried in their hometown cemeteries. As the practice was to strike casualities needing longtime hospital care off unit rolls, these two of the NIH were ones that slipped through the cracks, as did so many serving world wide. This, probably combined with the fact that the Roll of Honour was published in early 1946 may wll be the cause for their omission. Diane, in a pm informs m that 2nd Lt. Townson's name is on the Army RoH. her input coupled with yours hopefully will get things moving! Warmest regards, Gerry
The three are commemorated by CWGC. To qualify for this they must have either died due to any cause while still in service between 3.9.1939 and 31.12.1947, or due to a condition caused by or exacerbated by service if discharged within this period. You need to find out what is the Official criteria for inclusion in NIH ROH. Who set it up, what are the rules for inclusion? Perhaps these three don't meet the unofficial conditions you mentioned. Thank you Geoff you response is greatly appreciated Both the troopers, who crewed the same tank, were badly burned and evacuated to the UK. Sadly neither recovered and, in reponse of requests from the families, were buried in their hometown cemeteries. As the practice was to strike casualities needing longtime hospital care off unit rolls, these two of the NIH were ones that slipped through the cracks, as did so many serving world wide. This, probably combined with the fact that the Roll of Honour was published in early 1946 may wll be the cause for their ommision. Diane, in a pm informs m that 2nd Lt. Townson's name is on the Army RoH. her input coupled with yours hopefully will get things moving! Warmest regards, Gerry should convince our Regimental Historian the three should be added. Warmest regards, Gerry Diane, in a pm advises me that 2nd Lt. Townson's name in on the on the Army RoH.
A small but significant correction to my first sentence, which should end: ....if discharged and died within this period. No death, under any circumstances, can be considered if it was after 31.12.1947
While the CWGC has specified criteria for including a casualty on its database, the dates of death for example, a 'roll of honour' (such as a war memorial or book of remembrance) would not necessarily need to apply the same criteria. One might expect an official CWGC casualty would automatically be included for a casualty 'roll of honour'. But, in reality, a community group compiling a roll of honour (such a village or church community) could use a wider or narrower set of criteria. For example, if someone was seriously wounded in 1945 and died of those wounds three years later in 1948 they would not be commemorated by the CWGC but maybe a village community would commemorate such a casualty. A parish church group compiling a 'roll of honour' might decide to include only casualties who belonged to their particular denomination or, alternatively, might include all WW1 or WW2 casualties who lived in their parish, regardless of religious denomination. It all depends ...!
