The CV19 thread

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  1. Tolbooth

    Tolbooth Patron Patron

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  2. canuck

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  4. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

  5. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    I really wish that were true. There is nothing approaching normal in Canada these days.
     
  6. KevinC

    KevinC Slightly wierd

    Our lock down has been extended another two weeks. Fark. 5 weeks without exercise
     
  7. ozzy16

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  8. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    Push-ups, running in place, weights...you do what you can where you can.
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Stay chipper...

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  10. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    The Coronapocalyps in Holland:

    On Feb 27th, 2020, the first case of Covid19 was discovered in Holland. In late afternoon of Sunday 15 March Holland went into pause: bars and restaurants were closed, social distancing, no public gathering of over 100 people (until April 6th). At the time we had 1.413 registered patients and 24 deaths (numbers as of 16 March). The actual number of infections was higher, because not everyone in Holland is tested, only those who are "at risk of a serious disease course" - the real number of infections on 16 March was estimated at about 6000 people. Re the deaths - the real number of deceased patients in Holland, is probably higher, since only the deaths of confirmed Covid patients are registered.

    Since then I've been editing on a daily basis how the situation in Holland rapidly changes. These are 'only' official figures. The actual number of infections and deaths is most likely much higher:

    17 March - 19 new death cases, that makes 43; total confirmed patients 1705 (an increase of 292)
    18 March - 15 new deaths, total now risen to 58; total confirmed patients 2051 (an increase of 346)
    19 March - 18 new deaths, total now 76; total confirmed patients 2465 (an increase of 414)
    20 March - 30 people died over the last 24 hours; total now 106; total confirmed patients 2994 (an increase of 529)
    21 March - 30 deaths in the last 24 hours, death toll now 136; total confirmed patients 3631 (an increase of 637)
    22 March - 43 deaths, death toll now 179; total confirmed patients 4216 (an increase of 585)
    23 March - 34 people died over the last 24 hours; total number 213; total confirmed patients 4.749 (an increase of 533)

    As of March 23rd further restrictions became effective - (an almost complete) lock down: schools were closed, no public gathering of more than three people, work at home, social distancing (these measures are effective until April 28th)

    24 March - 63 deaths; total number now 276; total confirmed patients 5560 (increase of 811)
    25 March - 80 new deaths, total now 356; total confirmed patients 6412 (an increase of 852)
    26 March - 78 deaths, total now 434; total confirmed patients 7431 (an increase of 1019)
    27 March - 112 deaths, total now 546; total confirmed patients 8603 (an increase of 1172)
    28 March - 93 new deaths, total now 639; total confirmed patient 9762 (an increase of 1159).
    29 March - 132 new deaths, the death toll now is 771; total confirmed patients 10.866 (an increase of 1104)
    30 March - 93 new deaths, total now is 864; total confirmed patients 11.750 (an increase of 884)
    31 March - 175 new deaths, total now 1.039; total confirmed patients 12.595 (an increase of 845)
    1 April - 134 new deaths, total now 1.173; total confirmed patients 13.614 (an increase of 1.019)
    2 April - 166 new deaths, the death toll now is 1.339; total confirmed patients 14.697 (an increase of 1.083).
    3 April - 148 new deaths, total number now 1.487; total confirmed patients 15.723 (an increase of 1.026)
    4 April - 164 new deaths, total now 1.651; total confirmed patients 16.627 (an increase of 902)
    5 April - 115 new deaths, total now 1.766; total confirmed patients 17.851 (an increase of 1.224)
    6 April - 101 new deaths, total now 1.867; total confirmed patients 18.803 (an increase of 952)
    7 April - 234 new deaths, total now 2.101; total confirmed patients 19.580 (an increase of 777)
    8 April - 147 new deaths, which brings the total number to 2.248; number of confirmed patients is 20.549 (an increase of 969).
    9 April - 148 new deaths, total now is 2.396; number of confirmed patients 21.762 (an increase of 1.213)
    10 April - 115 new deaths, total now is 2.511; number of confirmed patients 23.097 (an increase of 1.335)

    Edit today:
    11 April - 132 new deaths, total now 2.643; number of confirmed patients is 24.413 (an increase of 1.316).

    We're now in the fourth week of our lock down which started 15 March and for the time being will last until 28 April. The number of confirmed cases will go up, as we are now doing a lot more of testing since the start of this week.

    On the plus side: We have reached a plateau. The figures of hospital admissions in recent days still fit the picture that the spread of COVID-19 is slower than if no measures had been taken.Today's influx with 189 is lower than the
    225 of yesterday. Hospital admissions the day before yesterday were 237 and the days before that resp. 308, 292, 260, 253, 336, 502, 625, 447 and 722.

    The limited number of available ICU-beds is still an issue. But with the lower influx rates we will cope. By pulling out all the stops there are now 2400 beds available. That will be the absolute maximum. There simply is not enough staff to man more beds. Of these 500 are taken by regular patients, which leaves about 1900 for COVID patients. Today (10 April) the number of ICU-patients has slightly risen today with 7 patients total being now 1391. 58 ICU-patients are taken care of in German hospitals. This country has promised reception of 107 patients in case of need.

    In the Erasmus MC in Rotterdam, a corona patient received antibodies from someone who was cured from the disease last Wednesday. The patient participates in scientific research to determine whether such treatment has a favorable effect on the course of the disease. It is the first time that someone in the Netherlands has received this treatment. It is hoped for that the plasma with antibodies will promote the recovery of corona patients. Previous studies in SARS patients cautiously suggest that administration of the antibodies reduces the risk of death.

    On the negative side: The real number of deceased patients in Holland probably has to be doubled, since only the deaths of confirmed Covid patients are registered. Those that pass away outside the hospital without being tested for Covid are not accounted for in the official mortality rates. It now becomes clear that the real number of death by Covid is 5.000+. If this is true the average mortality rate in Holland nearly equals that of Italy.

    No clear view of an exit-strategy yet, other than that will be a long-term issue in which social distancing will be the common thread.

    We need a vaccin!


    For comparison the mortality rate caused by Covid per million of inhabitants
    (Spain is relatively the hardest hit country in Europe! If the virus hits the USA as severely as it did in Spain, the mortality in the US would be about 110.515. It seems that Germany, where the virus spread at the same time as in Holland, is coping well ... what is their secret?)

    Spain (49 mln), with 16.606 deaths, is 338,90
    Italy (62,1 mln) with 19.468 deaths, the number is 313,49
    Belgium (11,5 mln) with 3.346 deaths, it is 290,96
    France (62,8 mlin) with 13.832 deaths, is 220,25
    Holland (17,1 mln) with 2.643 deaths, it now is 154,56
    UK (64,7 mln) this number, with 9.875 deaths, is 152,63
    Sweden (10 mln) with 887 deaths is 88,7
    USA (326,1 mln) with 20.608 deaths, it's 63,20
    Germany (83,1 mln) with 2.871 deaths is 34,55
    Canada (37,6 mln) with 654 deaths is 17,39
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2020
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  11. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    A fire fighter friend took up the cause to get more PPE equipment to the front lines. ( Canada was woefully unprepared for the onslaught of the Chinese Communist Party virus ). The message on the t-shirts he was selling was " Stay Calm and Wash On".
    Pray and hope that a vaccine is forthcoming. I don't think my wife will survive another 12 months of this.
     
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  12. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

  13. DianeE

    DianeE Member

    Since the 5th March South Africa has recorded 2003 cases and 24 deaths. As in other countries the actual number is probably much higher.

    Sadly, in South Africa, poverty and ignorance is a big factor together with alcoholism and drugs.

    22 schools have either been burnt to the ground or looted.

    In Cape Town suburbs 2 closed liquor stores have been looted.(Illegal to sell liquor or cigarettes)

    Lockdown has been extended for a further 2 weeks.

    We hope things improve in the near future.
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  14. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    Schools? Why the hell are they destroying schools, what good is that going to do? Destroy a school and you destroy your future
     
  15. bamboo43

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  16. DianeE

    DianeE Member

    I wish I could explain it.
     
  17. TTH

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  18. KevinC

    KevinC Slightly wierd

    Schools are not being protected. Vandals take wooden doors and desks for firewood and trash anything they can't carry.
     
  19. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Well there can be no doubt about his physical and mental toughness if his playing days were anything to go by:
     
  20. SteveDee

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