Rounds to identify

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Buritonian, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. Buritonian

    Buritonian Member

    Hi

    Could anyone identify this item?
    It was found on the beach at Bracklesham bay (on the coast near Chichester).
    Anti aircraft round? That’s my guess... it’ll be interesting to see how right or wrong I am being a complete novice.
    Apparently there was a tank or two along the stretch of beach during the war which were used for target practice by aircraft. Perhaps there’s something in that?
    Perhaps it’s not so old... equally interesting still.

    Would be fun to learn what it is if anyone can help.
     

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  2. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Well found Buritonian!

    20mm for me, but will happily stand (sit, lie down) corrected.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.
     
  3. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    I'd second that. I have an unfired one.
     
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  4. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

  5. Buritonian

    Buritonian Member

    Ah interesting - thanks for the quick replies.
    So I just had a quick read on 20mm and seems common place with the Luftwaffe and not much else that came to the south of England.
    so, given it’s very close to Portsmouth and Tangmere, is it reasonable to think it was probably fired from some sort of Luftwaffe aircraft during Battle of Britain?
     
  6. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    From 1941 onward 20 mm was also a standard British fighter gun found in Hurricanes, Spitfires, Typhoons, Tempests not to mention Beaufighters and Mosquitoes and if as you said the beach was used for target practice its likely to be British
     
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  7. Buritonian

    Buritonian Member

    I see - good point
     
  8. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Also my opinion: 20mm Hispano
    Hispano.jpg
    in doubt count the grooves on the brass: Hispano 9, Mauser 8
     
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  9. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    I agree with Robert on this, a British 20mm round.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.
     
  10. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Yep that's the round I also have.
     
  11. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    The area was used for practice 20mm firings - from the Chichester Observer 17.6.1948
    "After a few formalities had been completed, the proceedings opened with a statement of the case for the Royal Navy by Captain W. T. Couchman, R.N., Admiralty Director of Air Organisation and Training. He recalled that the navy wanted the use of the sea range off West Wittering (known as Bracklesham Bay range) for the firing of rocket projectiles, small practice bombs, and 20 mm. cannon for eight hours a day five days a week. The range had originally been used jointly with the R.A.F., who now no longer required it."
     
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  12. Buritonian

    Buritonian Member

    It has 9 grooves in the brass band so pretty conclusive - hopefully it’ll surface as to which aircraft used Bracklesham bay for practice the most.
    Thanks for all the help! Great to give the item a story.
    PS - yesterday some sort of larger ordnance was found along the same stretch of coast that required a controlled detonation by bomb squad.
     
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  13. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    I think that you may find that is a step too far as some aircraft had more 20 mm than others so that, for example, a practice burst by a Typhoon or Tempest would fire twice as many 20 mm rounds as a Spitfire IX.
     
  14. Buritonian

    Buritonian Member

    I see. I may look into which squadrons were using local airfields at the time, but not read too much into it.
     

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