Stop Line Green

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  1. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    I have been looking without much success for information regarding Stop Line Green which formed the outer defences of Bristol.

    Pointers to any source of information would be appreciated, particulary in relation to it's construction. I have found this book on Amazon, does anybody have it and is it any good?

    Thanks,

    Nick
     
  2. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

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    wtid45 Very Senior Member

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  6. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    You beat me to it I was just about to post that one, as well as this.

    GHQ Stop Line - Green - Google Maps

    I'm trying to find out when the pillboxes etc were built around Chippenham but can't find anything.
     
  7. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Surely there must be a record somewhere about the Pillboxes in Chippenham ref date of construction, or even some people about who would remember them being built?
     
  8. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Surely there must be a record somewhere about the Pillboxes in Chippenham ref date of construction, or even some people about who would remember them being built?

    To be honest I've only just started to look in any detail, on my next visit to the local records office I will see if there are any document/maps.
     
  9. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Nicks, Hope you can find out more and that reminds me there is a pillbox just up the road from me by the railway line!
     
  10. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  11. Stop Line

    Stop Line Member

    Re Book Stop Line Green by Major Green, worth getting if you have already not got it from Amazon. Basically a comprehensive list of surviving structures with suggested walks. Some good general info re Reconnaissance Report on Bristol Outer Defences, June 1940. Note this is a review by someone who has never visited the area, so can only go on the book.
     
  12. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Re Book Stop Line Green by Major Green, worth getting if you have already not got it from Amazon. Basically a comprehensive list of surviving structures with suggested walks. Some good general info re Reconnaissance Report on Bristol Outer Defences, June 1940. Note this is a review by someone who has never visited the area, so can only go on the book.

    I now have the book and it is informative, have yet to try any of the walks though!!
     
  13. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Surely there must be a record somewhere about the Pillboxes in Chippenham ref date of construction, or even some people about who would remember them being built?


    Brian Lavery found a wealth of information on this at Kew I believe; certainly he uses a lot of collated numbers in his "We Shall Fight On The Beaches" when talking about the huge panic construction project in the eight weeks following Dunkirk.

    One thing to remember is....during THIS period the vast majority were constructed by any local contractors capable of doing so! He seems to have turned up the receipts submitted to the Ministry of Works for payment! :lol: After this "bulk" construction period....construction rapidly tapered off, with some Lines only being completed through 1941 by the RE and Army labour instead ;) Partly because of the total cost - tho' IN that period "cost was no object"....but ALSO with the arrival of Brooke as OC Home Defence to replace Ironside, he rapidly steered the defence plans AWAY from static defences and Stop Lines into rapid and mobile counterattacking around the "anti-tank islands".
     
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  14. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Thanks for that Phylo:)
     
  15. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    However....Lavery ALSO has several representative anecdotes of how these pillboxes thrown up by civilian contractors weren't always..."satisfactory" :) Fields of fire that ONLY opened over any nearby FRIENDLY trenches, pillboxes that flooded in every rain shower, had internal fixtures that were out of proportion to the occupants' likely heights etc., etc....!

    Tho' as we know what CAN'T be faulted was their longevity!
     
  16. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Go to ww2 forums with same request Gordon aka Historian who also posts here has many such links.. Iam doing similar research in Worcs but apart from telling you there were many RE and navvies up at Corsham at that time Cant help with nearby Chippenham... Now if it was Corsham...
     
  17. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Chippenham had one of the five ministry of food reserve sites. Massive stock apparantly. Suppose if you find its location youll find some more defence sites..market harboro and aberdeen being two others..corsham had same thing in cold war days ... Chippenham must surely have had some involvement with outer defence of corsham as a vital defence point.
     
  18. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Chippenham had one of the five ministry of food reserve sites. Massive stock apparantly. Suppose if you find its location youll find some more defence sites..market harboro and aberdeen being two others..corsham had same thing in cold war days ... Chippenham must surely have had some involvement with outer defence of corsham as a vital defence point.

    Thanks, Urgh. I was not aware of such sites, I'll see what I can find out next time I visit the local archives.
     
  19. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    This might be of interest, although I have not read it: ''We shall defend our island' : investigating a forgotten militarised landscape' by Philip Rowe; a University of Southampton PhD Thesis (2014) and available via: ‘We shall defend our island' - investigating a forgotten militarised landscape - ePrints Soton It is 858Mb!
    The Abstract states:
    Found via searching the British Library EThOS database for stuff. British Library EThOS - Search and order theses online
     

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