Paratroopers murdered in Herouvillette

Hi Andrew,

Any chance you can you not post the file on here for everyone?

Cheers
Andy

 

Sorry I cannot post the article, anyone needing my help please email me directly.

 

any idea if my uncle james (JIM) MUNRO was tere please,, ive heard the story from him but not too sure if that is right,,, i need to find out more info on 1st batallion sas in which he was iN, MANY THANKS

 

Hi,
I'm currently working an a essay on this topic for school. I'm currently cornered an in need of more information who is murdered.
Mart

 

Maggi

I will email you the pdf file by Carl Rymen, your father is mentioned in there.

Andrew
Hello ! I am a new member, from France; living near Caen. Actually, most of my childhood's sundays have been spent in Hérouvillette, where my godmother had a farm. I sometimes visit the cemetery where she is burried, and always look with great emotion at the graves of these "children" killed. The sad thing about June 6th 1944 is that my godmother's son has been killed (actually, wounded, died on June 13th on the hospital ship en route for England, burried in Kingston cemetery in Portsmouth). My godmaother knew what happened to her son in 1950 !!!but she had made many enquiries and wrote the "story" of what happened on that day in the evening. An ambulance and a surviving English Lieutenant are mentionned, people (civilian and soldiers) seem to have been left wounded all over the night, being rescued on June 7th in the morning. It seems that many soldiers were killed there. The location is very precise. I'll translate her 2 pages in English, if this is of any interest for you. If you have any other informations, I would be pleased to share them with you.
On behalf of the English families who would need it, i can also put some flowers on the graves, as I visit the village cemetery from times to times.

 

That reminds me somehow on the war crimes of the other SS units "Goetz von Berlichingen" und "Das Reich" during the Operations Bulbasket and Loyton. Gruesome!

 

Found this but it didn´t mention the above made crimes against British POW´s. Maybe that it was posted somewhere before.

 

I never witnessed any atrocities by British troops....Nor did I hear of any taken against the enemy. But there was a reluctance to take prisoners in the heat of battle.In every instance once captured the enemy was treated decently. But in the heat of the fighting anything goes...

 

But in the heat of the fighting anything goes...

Very wise said!

 

Found this on the 716 website (link below) is this the unit at the farm, it sounds like them.


"...The troops occupying the C.P. Of the 1./Pi 716 in Herouvillette, consisting of one officer, 4 non-commissioned officers and 15 men immediately engaged the British parachute troops, took a number of prisoners, some of which still with their parachutes; by means of fire and counter attack they cleared some of the area around them, captured two machine guns and so could hold their own against a superior enemy until reinforced arrived."


Measures taken

 

This is another of those that may open old wounds. After the surrender Eisenhower made it clear how he felt about Germans and issued orders that were unacceptable to the British and Canadian commanders 'afford them no shelter and he ordered a reduction in rations. The order suggested that POW status be removed and 'disarmed hostiles' be used. The mortality rate in US camps was four times that of British/Canadian camps. There was not the blanket hatred amongst British officers, who in many cases viewed their counterparts as soldiers under orders. They also knew that the only way to get Germany up and back on it's feet was going to have to be using the very people in their 'care', I am not making a comment on who was right or wrong, just that the documentation is there be it right or wrong!

 

For those of us that were around immediately post war. They may recall that we were very short of everything, fuel, food, the lot!

At the same time we were sending aid to Germany to prevent starvation. Similarly and earlier in the war, we agreed with the enemy an arrangement that allowed our Lancaster's to fly in food to the Netherlands. For they were in a very bad state.

 

Hi everybody

I must make an history excercise about the Finkenrath murdings on POW's , especially on Dennis Russon, at D-day.
Can anybody help me.

kind regards.

 

Maggi,

Did you ever find any further information out on this? I have recently obtained records on this matter and may have information for you.

Regards

Ben

 

Hi, my name is Mike Isaacs and my grandfather John Isaacs was killed at Herouvillette on D-Day. I would be interested in having a copy of the Carl Rumen PDF that has been mentioned & also to contact any members whose relatives were also killed at this time, particularly Ben Mayne & Maggi who have posted previously. My email is: mikebisaacs AT yahoo.co.uk

 

I’ve sent OP a PM suggesting he replaces the @ in his email with ‘at’ to avoid bots harvesting his email address.

Steve

 

I notice that the the first 4 files below are mentioned earlier in the thread but the 5th one is not listed but may still be of interest

Hérouvillette, Normandy in June 1944 | The National Archives
Herouvillette: murder of two paratrocpers | The National Archives
Herouvillette, France: killing of five allied POWs | The National Archives
Herouvillette, France: killing of five allied POWs | The National Archives


Herouvillette case. Defendant: Karl Fenkenrath. Place of Trial: Hamburg. | The National Archives

TD

 

Hello everyone,
I'm a student, and I'm 16 years old. I am very interested in this theme because I need to do a murder investigation for my history course.
I read the name of my teacher a lot on the comments above, his name is Carl Rymen.
My question is, Is he really that reliable that everyone has to see his sites or articles?
I respect him very much and he is a very good teacher.
Thank you.