CDN /2 Capt. H.C. Long (RHLI)

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  1. Jan2000

    Jan2000 Active Member

    Dear all,

    I am looking for any information on CDN /2 Capt. H.C. Long (RHLI)
    He probably was a Chaplain?

    Thank you very much in advance,

    Jan
     
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    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  3. Jan2000

    Jan2000 Active Member

    Yes! I have bought this helmet.
     
  4. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Another RHLI chaplain, Capt. John Weir Foote, won the VC at Dieppe.
     
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    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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  6. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Something to think about.

    Perhaps the "H.C." stands for "Honourary Captain"?

    After going over 6,000 Canadian newspaper articles from 1941 - 1945 I could not find a Captain HC Long.

    Dave
     
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  7. Jan2000

    Jan2000 Active Member

    Hello,

    Thank you very much for the effort you are puting into this. I do not know if he was a chaplain, a friend of mine researched him a while ago and came to that conclusion, however he can not find the info anymore.

    The H.C. idea is not bad at all and could be true. All that needs to be done now is find a Captain Long that served with the RHLI.

    Unfortunately I can not do much with those websites, the service records are still restricted.
     
  8. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    http://lmharchive.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Royal-Hamilton-Light-Infantry.pdf (pg. 6 of 37)

    9 July 1944 0900 Protestant Church Parade conducted by the Padre H/Capt RC Williams in field next to Battalion HQ. At 1000 a Roman Catholic mass held in church at village of Bazenville.

    14 July 1944 1000 H/Capt RC Williams, the unit padre who had been wounded in the forehead with shrapnel on the night of 11/12 July and had continued on duty, was evacuated to hospital.

    21 July 1944 1900 H/Capt JG Gault arrived at "A" Echelon from HQ 4 Canadian Infantry Brigade. He will assume the duties of unit padre as successor to H/Capt RC Williams.

    If you can find out his full name and/or service number I will show you how to get his service file.

    Dave
     
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  9. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    The prefix of CDN against his name indicates he was a Canloan officer. CDN/2 was his service number, provided it is correct. Basically a Canadian posted to a British Regiment. There is a thread about Canloan officers who were killed.
     
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  10. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Thanks for that, ramacal.

    CANLOAN - Officers with British Regiments • SWWEC The Canoan Scheme
    The Highland Light Infantry and The Glasgow Highlanders (H.L.I.)

    – 2nd Battalion-15th (Scottish) Infantry Division


    ROH-349 Lieutenant John B. Matthew K/A 27-3-45
    407 Lieutenant (Major) Louis J. Boudreau
    159 Lieutenant Stewart H. Cameron
    510 Captain James R. Campbell
    504 Lieutenant John H. Fransham
    534 Captain Adolphe M. Granda
    254 Captain Lloyd G. Greene [1st posting of 2] 344 Lieutenant G. Vernon Hurst
    256 Captain Harold C. Long
    554 Lieutenant (Lt-Col) C. Roger MacLellan, M.C.,C.D.
    117 Major Alexander (Sandy) M. Millar [1st posting of 2] 258 Lieutenant C. Russell Parke
    259 Lieutenant Lorne A. Rice
    42 Major Allan F. Smith, Croix de Guerre
    512 Lieutenant George W. Weston

    http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/s4/f2/dsk2/tape17/PQDD_0001/MQ30254.pdf

    Pg 22.

    Once all the volunteers arrived in Sussex the diversity of those who had volunteered became readily apparent. Among the volunteers were those from well established families such as Ross LeMesurier, whose father was the Dean of Law at McGill, or Donald Oland whose family were one of the leading brewers in the Maritimes. Mixed in with them were those like Harold Long and Walter Spencer who both finished school at a young age and were working as labourers when the war was declared39

    39Having finished school at the age of eighteen Harold Long was working in an illegal coal mine when the war was declared. Having grown up in a family of sixteen, Spencer also finished school at the age of seventeen and had just started an apprenticeship in a printing shop when he volunteered CASF in 1942. Harold Long, Personal Interview. July 25, 1995. Walter Spencer, Personal Interview. November 15, 1996

    He appears several times in the a/m pdf. The author of this thesis has a copy of Captain Long's unpublished memoirs in his possession which may be worth pursuing.

    Captain Harold C. Long of Thorburn, NS appears as "wounded" on the Canadian Army's 693rd casualty list, dated 8 November 1944.

    I believe this is him:

    Harold C. Long (1918-2002) - Find A Grave...

    Regards,

    Dave
     
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  11. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    It would be good to get a copy of the war diary of this unit for 1944. The "weekly field return of officers" (Form W3008, pages 1 & 2) would be helpful to confirm his injury date of Nov 1944 and also when he was posted.

    It could also ID, which company he was in and might even mention in the diary how he was wounded. It would also confirm whether or not he was a Chaplain.
     
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  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Attached Files:

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  13. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    I found a photo from early 1944, with names on the back, but he is not in it. Some of the names in the war diary posted by Owen, are in the photo.

    GH2_1944.jpg

    GH - 1944.jpg
     
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  14. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Rev James Shepherd Taylor, far left, middle row, in the above photo was KIA 30 June 1944.
    Casualty

    Newspaper reports state that he was killed while attending wounded at an advance medical aid post. The incident is also mentioned in the diaries as per Owen's link.

    If there is a suggestion that Capt. Long was a Chaplain, could he have been a replacement? EDIT - No, see next post.
     
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  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Read pages for August 44. Padre was Rev Keen.

    I think the chaplain idea is a red herring.
     

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  16. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Well spotted.
     
  17. Jan2000

    Jan2000 Active Member

    Hello,

    How can I thank all of you? What an ammount of information, simply fantastic! I too believe that the Chaplain is a wrong lead. It is nice that he served in my county during the war. I hope he recovered and also fought around Groesbeek, this is the area where I live.
     
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  18. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    I'd settle for one of these:D

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  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I hope he recovered but missed out on anymore action. Hope he had a long & happy life.

    I haven't looked for him in the rest of the Bn war diaries. He may have gone back to them.
     
  20. Jan2000

    Jan2000 Active Member

    Hello,

    Excuse me I said that a bit cruel. He passed away in 2002 according to his gravestone, at least he had quite a long life.

    Going after the author of 'To close With and Destroy'
     

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