F. W. George R.A? & E. A. Henry

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by amberdog45, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    A friend has sent these photographs of his father Edward Arthur Henry (b. 1923) and uncle Frederick William George (b. 1921).

    Due to illness he's not able to pursue chasing records yet, but I see on Find My Past there are Royal Artillery Attestation Papers for a Frederick William George, two entries 1939 & 1941. Anybody with a FMP account take a peek for me at these two possibilities please? Thank you. Maria image2.jpeg image2.jpeg image3.jpeg image1.jpeg
     
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  2. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

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  3. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Wow, quick work Guy. Thank you very much.
     
  4. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Maria
    Rich Payne will know which unit the 861 AoS number belongs to, I'll send him a link.
    Guy
     
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  5. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Thank you Guy, I appreciate that.
     
  6. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hodges & Taylor confirm 860 and 862 with 'Army Group' (Bottom left to top right) bar as Tank Transporter Companies RASC, 21st Army Group but don't expand on which.

    Certainly we seem to be looking at the same sort of Diamond T tractors as on this thread :- RASC Tank Transporter AOS

    RASC units frequently had thir own signs -We need this book - has anyone ever seen it ? - 21st Army Group RASC Formation Badges - Signwriters Pattern Book c.1945 | #427622813

    Any chance of re-scanning and zooming in on the sign on the door ?
     
  7. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Thank you for this Rich. I've just sent Kev an email to see if he can get a clearer picture.
     
  8. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    His father and uncle, wouldn't they have the SAME surname?
    So is it Edward Arthur Henry GEORGE and Frederick William GEORGE?
    To have two families each with surnames that could be Christian first names seems a little unusual, but what do I know?
     
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  9. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    I assumed a maternal uncle. Could be huge age ranges in his mothers siblings. My great gran had her last child age 46.

    I see on FMP there's a Private E.A. Henry, RASC 105163, on the 1945 Casualty Lists.

    Kev has not long started his family tree on Ancestry. I wonder if either 1939 I.D. Reg reveals any military details.
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Possibles

    Name: Edward A Henry
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Single
    Birth Date: 13 Nov 1923
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: Haddon Hall.
    Residence Place: Brixworth, Northamptonshire, England
    Occupation: General Farm Work
    Schedule Number: 128
    Sub Schedule Number: 2
    Enumeration District: RKBO
    Registration district: Brixworth 165.1.
    Household Members:
    Name
    Maude E Henry (mother - born 1904)
    Edward A Henry

    Name: Frederick W George
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Single
    Birth Date: 5 Oct 1921
    Residence Year: 1939
    Residence Place: St Pancras, London, England
    Occupation: Metal Worker-Labourer
    Schedule Number: 348
    Sub Schedule Number: 4
    Enumeration District: ASRM
    Registration district: 9-3
    Inferred Father: Thomas E George
    Inferred Mother: Ellenor C George
    Household Members:
    Name
    Thomas E George
    Ellenor C George
    Albert V Brenchley
    Frederick W George
    Lilian M George

    Hope it helps
    There may be others where the middle initial is absent, but have not searched for them
    TD
     
  11. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Hi TD, he's given me 14 Sep for both. I'll need to double check that with him.
     
  12. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Maria,
    105163 Private E.A. Henry R.A.S.C. was a released P.o.W. in 1945
    Guy
     
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  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945
    Name: E A Henry
    Rank: Private
    Army Number: 105169
    Regiment: Royal Army Service Corps
    POW Number: 2796
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 344
    Camp Location: Lambinowice, Poland
    Record Office: Royal Army Service Corps Record Office, Ore Place, Hastings, Sussex
    Record Office Number: 29

    TD
     
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  14. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I have only just seen that there is a difference in the service numbers above - wonder which is correct

    TD
     
  15. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

  16. The formation sign on the door of the Tank Transporter looks like 15 Coy RASC (Tk Tptr). See:
    RASC Coy Formation Signs

    Furthermore, Hodges & Taylor give (page 110) 15 Tk Tptr Coy as having the AoS Serial 861, as part of GHQ, L of C & Army Troops, First Army from 31 Dec 42 (whereas Serials 858, 859, 862 & 863 were allocated to 9, 20, 16 & 17 Tk Tptr Coys respectively).

    The photos on the OP must have been shot after 25 Sep 43, when the use of diagonal bars on the AoS Sign were promulgated. If they were shot in NW Europe, and because we know thanks to Dave's post RASC Tank Transporter AOS that 15 Coy (TT) was later part of 21 A Gp, this would mean that it retained its AoS Serial after its transfer from First Army.

    The 'A4' on the windscreen must mean the 4th vehicle in 'A' Platoon.

    Michel
     
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