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    Can anyone please help by answering some questions about how I would find info about German pows. I have some documents from the war, letters. He was in a Pow camp in Sherburn-in-Elmet, North Yorkshire. Married a local girl in 1957.
     
  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Please see the link for info about obtaining ICRC records:
    Requests for information about people held during the Spanish Civil War or the Second World War: Quarterly limit reached

    "Regarding a request for information about someone held as a prisoner of war ... during the ... Second World War.

    The maximum number of requests that our staff can deal with has been reached. Service will resume on 1st October 2017.

    We may still be able to deal with requests of a humanitarian nature before then if:

    you are the person concerned;
    your request is linked to administrative formalities or a compensation claim;
    you are seeking to determine the identity of a natural parent or grandparent."



    Startseite | Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) holds records of members of the Wehrmacht who were taken prisoner.


    You might also be interested in this as background reading
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitlers-Last-Army-German-Britain/dp/0752482750
     
  3. I have obviously done all the google searches and the usual stuff.. I thought this forum would have experts on it who would be able to give me some answers I can't find with a google.
     
  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD


    Then it might help if you made it obvious what you already have discovered....eg if you have already applied to WASt or ICRC.


    Link to your other thread so that members can avoid duplication of information
    Pow camp in sherburn-in-elmet??
     
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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Is this your POW?

    George Ebisch
    1909–1988
    BIRTH 11 SEP 1909
    DEATH 1988 • Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

    TD

    edited to add

    It would be good to have some documentary evidence of where he was detained as a POW, the camp may have been called something else at the time
     
  6. IMG_0580.JPG No that is not him.

    He was at 3 camps I think. Knutsford Loughborough, Brayton and then Sherburn in Elmet may not have been a camp perhaps?
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    OK
    Before Dec 1944 is could not have been a POW camp:
    Reference: AIR 29/518
    Description:
    Airborne Forces Experimental Establishment, Sherburn-in-Elmet (AFEE UK); appendices with diagrams and photographs of equipment.
    Note: appendices only
    Date: 1944 May-Dec.
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Former reference in its original department: IIM/FN3/1A
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

    There are other similar files but this is the latest.

    We also know it became an EVW Camp (European Voluntary Workers) never heard of this term before but we are all learning.


    We also know about POW Camp no 183

    183 Quorn Camp, Wood Lane, Quorn, (Quorndon) Leicestershire Eng STANDARD type. See Camp no.9

    From - Every prisoner of war camp in the UK mapped and listed

    Although having said another database gives a different location for camp 183:
    183
    Beckton Marshes camp, East Ham, London E6, London, England
    London
    England
    5
    Google Fusion Tables

    However this document (POW camps in the UK) shows the problem especially if you try the 'Find' option and type in 183. Using that same system if you put in Sherburn, then there are zero results. My guess here would be that he was in one of the Camps 183, and after the war was moved to the EVW Hostel at Sherburn, This would have been the old RAF and Airborne training base no longer required and with empty buildings etc would have been a good place to have a Hostel.

    TD

    edited to add:
    If we had his name then there is a chance that there is a family tree on Ancestry that may have information to help answer your questions
     
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  8. The name is
    Horst ewald He was with another prisoner of war who was an Italian called John mauritzzi.
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Naturalisation Certificate: Horst Karl Erich Ottomar Julius Ewald. From Germany.... | The National Archives

    Reference: HO 334/412/48548
    Description:
    Naturalisation Certificate: Horst Karl Erich Ottomar Julius Ewald. From Germany. Resident in Sherburn-in-Elmet, near Leeds, Yorkshire. Certificate BNA48548 issued 6 November 1957.
    Date: 1957 Nov 6
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Language: English
    Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

    This marriage is 1951 - I believe you mentioned it was 1957 previously
    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Horst E O J Ewald
    Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1951
    Registration district: Barkton Ash
    Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
    Spouse: Elizabeth M Johnson
    Volume Number: 2d
    Page Number: 897

    They had 2 children from the marriage both born in the 1960's

    West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962
    Name: Horst Ewald
    Year: 1960
    Country: England
    County: West Yorkshire
    Parliamentary Division: Barkston Ash
    Place of Abode: 29
    Reference Number: Barkston Ash

    Name: Horst Ewald
    Year: 1961
    Country: England
    County: West Yorkshire
    Parliamentary Division: Barkston Ash
    Place of Abode: 29
    Reference Number: Barkston Ash

    TD
     
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  10. Many thanks. Is there any way to find out which Pow camps he was in for definite please?

    I have got some docs that say camp 183 and 53. I think he was in naburn hospital for a while too.
     
  11. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Yes by applying to ICRC or WASt in the links I supplied above Info about docs pls
     
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