Not your ordinary search

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by geoff501, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Geoff,

    As a consequence of this thread, I have tried various searches for casualties from the 1st Hyderabad Infantry, Indian States Forces and found none, which seems a little unlikely. Am I being a bit thick, or were there really no fatalities?

    Thanks,

    Andrew

    Hello Andrew
    if you put Hyderabad in the including box and 1st bn in the ship or unit text it brings up a number of casualties
    Geoff's 1939-47 Search Engine

    001 Link ABDUL AZIZ - 777 1ST BN 22/03/1946

    002 Link ABDUL AZIZ - 704 1ST BN 05/03/1945
    COLUMN 369.
    003 Link ABDUL GHAFUR - 612 1ST BN 12/10/1943
    COLUMN 371.
    004 Link ABDUL HAQ - 379 1ST BN 01/08/1944
    COLUMN 371.
    005 Link ABDUL KARIM KHAN - 45 1ST BN 02/09/1943
    COLUMN 369.
    006 Link ABDUL QADIR - 844 1ST BN 07/08/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    007 Link ABDUL RAHMAN - 167 1ST BN 04/06/1945
    K. A. 11.
    008 Link ABDUL RAHMAN - 431 1ST BN 31/01/1943
    39. A. 22.
    009 Link ABDUL RAHMAN - 347 1ST BN 16/02/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    010 Link ABDULLAH KHAN - 464 1ST BN 08/03/1945
    COLUMN 370.
    011 Link AHMAD HUSAIN - 59 1ST BN 29/07/1943
    COLUMN 369.
    012 Link ALI AHMAD KHAN - 211 1ST BN 12/10/1943
    COLUMN 370.
    013 Link AMBAYYA - 854 1ST BN 01/06/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    014 Link ARJUN PARSHAD - 462 1ST BN 05/04/1945
    COLUMN 370.
    015 Link ASHAYA - 318 1ST BN 21/04/1942
    42. C. 8.
    016 Link BABAYA - 903 1ST BN 15/08/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    017 Link BAL KISTAYA - 315 1ST BN 26/08/1943
    S. A. 9.
    018 Link BAL KISTAYA - 276 1ST BN 01/04/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    019 Link BALAYYA - 208 1ST BN 30/07/1943
    J. C. 10.
    020 Link BHONAJI - 269 1ST BN 29/07/1943
    COLUMN 371.

    021 Link BHUMAYYA - 156 1ST BN 03/08/1944
    COLUMN 371.
    022 Link BUCHAYYA - 362 1ST BN 29/07/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    023 Link CHINNU MIAN - 354 1ST BN 26/04/1944
    COLUMN 371.
    024 Link DASHRATH GITE - 11393 1ST BN 05/02/1945 5TH MAHRATTA LIGHT INFANTRY
    COLUMN 13.
    025 Link DEV DATTA - 496 1ST BN 23/05/1942
    COLUMN 371.
    026 Link DHARAM SINGH - 294 1ST BN 05/09/1943
    T. A. 8.
    027 Link DHAUNI - 245 1ST BN 05/08/1941
    COLUMN 371.
    028 Link DIN MUHAMMAD - 229 1ST BN 03/07/1943
    J. C. 3.
    029 Link GAJENDHAR - 463 1ST BN 13/01/1944
    COLUMN 371.
    030 Link GANGARAM YARPE - 449 1ST BN 16/01/1943 MAHAR REGIMENT

    031 Link GHOUSE MIR KHAN - 467 1ST BN 09/08/1947

    032 Link GIRDHARI LAL - 607 1ST BN 04/06/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    033 Link HABIB ABDUL RAHMAN - SF/62131A 1ST BN 30/01/1942
    COLUMN 369.
    034 Link HASAN-UD-DIN - 746 1ST BN 07/02/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    035 Link HIRA LAL - 1003 1ST BN 13/07/1943
    COLUMN 372.
    036 Link JAGAN NATH DAS - SF/6252 1ST BN 21/06/1943
    COLUMN 369.
    037 Link JOHN C 410 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 369.
    038 Link KASI RAM - 474 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 372.
    039 Link KHADER MOHI-UD-DIN - 241 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 372.
    040 Link KHAMBAR ALI - 483 1ST BN 30/12/1944
    39. B. 1.
    041 Link KHWAJA MOIN-UD-DIN - 62 1ST BN 12/10/1943
    COLUMN 370.
    042 Link KISTAYYA - 192 1ST BN 03/08/1945
    COLUMN 372.
    043 Link LACHHMI NARAYAN - 402 1ST BN 29/01/1942
    COLUMN 372.
    044 Link LINGAYA - 2757 1ST BN 13/02/1942
    SP. MEM. 11. E. 8.
    045 Link MAHBUB ALI - 630 1ST BN 29/07/1943
    COLUMN 372.
    046 Link MAHBUB KHAN - 270 1ST BN 12/01/1942
    COLUMN 372.
    047 Link MAHBUB KHAN - 195 1ST BN 13/03/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    048 Link MARAYYA - 114 1ST BN 16/11/1942
    42. G. 15.
    049 Link MARKAYYA - 2814 1ST BN 02/01/1945
    COLUMN 374.
    050 Link MEWA LAL - 2822 1ST BN 10/08/1945
    COLUMN 374.
    051 Link MIRZA SARFARAZ ALI BEG - 306 1ST BN 10/10/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    052 Link MUHAMMAD ABDUL JABAR - 692 1ST BN 29/01/1942
    COLUMN 372.
    053 Link MUHAMMAD AMIR - 694 1ST BN 21/03/1944
    COLUMN 369.
    054 Link MUHAMMAD AZAM - 818 1ST BN 19/12/1943
    J. D. 10.
    055 Link MUHAMMAD BURHAN - 100 1ST BN 28/06/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    056 Link MUHAMMAD GHAUS - 328 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    40. D. 4.
    057 Link MUHAMMAD GHAUS - 52 1ST BN 01/04/1945
    COLUMN 369.
    058 Link MUHAMMAD GHAUS - 191 1ST BN 13/12/1942
    39. B. 19.
    059 Link MUHAMMAD HUSAIN - 197 1ST BN 23/02/1945
    J. B. 15.
    060 Link MUHAMMAD IBRAHIM - 743 1ST BN 14/12/1947

    061 Link MUHAMMAD IBRAHIM - 453 1ST BN 17/11/1944
    COLUMN 371.
    062 Link MUHAMMAD ISHAQ - 2793 1ST BN 14/07/1943
    J. C. 5.
    063 Link MUHAMMAD ISHMAIL - 274 1ST BN 02/09/1943
    J. D. 7.
    064 Link MUHAMMAD ISMAIL - 226 1ST BN 31/08/1945
    COLUMN 372.
    065 Link MUHAMMAD ISMAIL - 829 1ST BN 09/08/1943
    COLUMN 372.
    066 Link MUHAMMAD JILANI - 1019 1ST BN 09/01/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    067 Link MUHAMMAD KHAN - 555 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 372.
    068 Link MUHAMMAD MASUM - 447 1ST BN 07/08/1945
    COLUMN 372.
    069 Link MUHAMMAD MASUM - 693 1ST BN 14/04/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    070 Link MUHAMMAD MAULANA - 2789 1ST BN 15/06/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    071 Link MUHAMMAD MAULANA - 376 1ST BN 29/12/1943
    COLUMN 372.
    072 Link MUHAMMAD SARDAR ALI - 954 1ST BN 02/01/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    073 Link MUHAMMAD SHARAF-UD-DIN - 473 1ST BN 11/01/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    074 Link MUHAMMAD SULAIMAN - 541 1ST BN 13/02/1942
    COLUMN 373.
    075 Link MUHAMMAD WALI-UD-DIN - 792 1ST BN 19/12/1943
    COLUMN 373.
    076 Link MUHAMMAD YAQUB - 860 1ST BN 26/11/1943
    COLUMN 373.
    077 Link MUHHAMMAD GHALIB - 252 1ST BN 05/02/1944
    S. A. 6.
    078 Link MUJTABAH HUSAIN KHAN - SF/5256 1ST BN 19/12/1943
    COLUMN 369.
    079 Link MUMTAZ ALI KHAN - 981 1ST BN 11/07/1943
    J. C. 11.
    080 Link NARASIMHAN - 2756 1ST BN 01/09/1945
    COLUMN 374
    081 Link NARASIMHULU - 2755 1ST BN 12/01/1942
    COLUMN 374.
    082 Link NASIB KHAN - 733 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 373.
    083 Link NIZAM-UD-DIN - 202 1ST BN 26/01/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    084 Link NUR-UD-DIN - 36 1ST BN 12/10/1944
    COLUMN 369.
    085 Link POCHAYYA - 136 1ST BN 25/06/1943
    COLUMN 373.
    086 Link RAHMAT HUSAIN - 602 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 373.
    087 Link RAJ LINGAM - 993 1ST BN 08/11/1943
    S. A. 7.
    088 Link RAJ MUHAMMAD - 244 1ST BN 10/09/1945
    K. B. 2.
    089 Link RAM CHANDAR - 536551 71ST BN 04/09/1943 INDIAN PIONEER CORPS

    090 Link RAM CHAWAN - 23838 1ST BN 09/04/1945 5TH MAHRATTA LIGHT INFANTRY
    PANEL 18.
    091 Link RAM PARSHAD - 444 1ST BN 25/04/1945
    COLUMN 370.
    092 Link RAM SINGH - 616 1ST BN 13/03/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    093 Link RATAN SINGH - 127 1ST BN 13/01/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    094 Link ROSHAN DIN KHAN - 364 1ST BN 30/06/1947

    095 Link RUKHMAYYA - 240 1ST BN 25/01/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    096 Link SAKHI MUHAMMAD - 289 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 370.
    097 Link SAYANNU - 767 1ST BN 03/08/1945
    COLUMN 371.
    098 Link SAYID ABBAS - 988 1ST BN 12/06/1943
    COLUMN 373.
    099 Link SAYID ABDUL AZIZ - 772 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 373.
    100 Link SAYID AHMAD ALI KHAN - 725 1ST BN 12/12/1943
    COLUMN 373.
    101 Link SAYID ALI - 832 1ST BN 05/09/1945
    COLUMN 373.
    102 Link SAYID FAKHAR-UD-DIN - 640 1ST BN 01/02/1942 - - 28/02/1942
    COLUMN 373.
    103 Link SAYID GHAUS - 172 1ST BN 30/09/1943
    COLUMN 371.
    104 Link SAYID GHAUS - 938 1ST BN 10/01/1944
    COLUMN 373.
    105 Link SAYID HABIB - 162 1ST BN 16/07/1943
    J. C. 7.
    106 Link SAYID HASHIM ALI - 233 1ST BN 16/12/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    107 Link SAYID IMAM ALI - 2752 1ST BN 27/08/1942
    39. A. 25.
    108 Link SAYID IMAM ALI - SF/6260 1ST BN 01/07/1943
    COLUMN 369.
    109 Link SAYID ISMAIL - 763 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 374.
    110 Link SAYID JAFAR - 391 1ST BN 21/08/1945
    COLUMN 374.
    111 Link SAYID JALAL-UD-DIN - 388 1ST BN 03/04/1945
    COLUMN 370.
    112 Link SAYID KHWAJA - 53 1ST BN 29/07/1943
    COLUMN 370.
    113 Link SAYID MIR - 170 1ST BN 01/05/1943 - - 31/05/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    114 Link SAYID YAQUB ALI - 319 1ST BN 14/10/1943
    J. D. 4.
    115 Link SHEIKH ABDUL KHADER - 613 1ST BN 24/05/1944
    COLUMN 374.
    116 Link SHEIKH AHMAD - SF/6261 1ST BN 14/06/1945
    J. B. 7.
    117 Link SHEIKH ALI - 357 1ST BN 28/05/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    118 Link SHEIKH ASAD ULLAH - 92 1ST BN 15/07/1943
    J. D. 9.
    119 Link SHEIKH BHIKKHA - 545 1ST BN 20/10/1943
    J. D. 1.
    120 Link SHEIKH BUDH ABBAN - 468 1ST BN 29/04/1945
    K. A. 10.
    121 Link SHEIKH DAD - 406 1ST BN 11/07/1942
    39. B. 14.
    122 Link SHEIKH GHUDU - 2797 1ST BN 04/09/1945
    COLUMN 374.
    123 Link SHEIKH GHUDU - 2795 1ST BN 15/02/1942
    COLUMN 374.
    124 Link SHEIKH HUSAIN - 220 1ST BN 12/01/1942
    COLUMN 374.
    125 Link SHEIKH HUSAIN - 834 1ST BN 12/02/1945
    41. B. 8.
    126 Link SHEIKH KAZIM - 622 1ST BN 28/08/1943
    J. C. 4.
    127 Link SHEIKH MADAR - 113 1ST BN 12/10/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    128 Link SHEIKH MAHBUB - 248 1ST BN 19/05/1944
    J. C. 16.
    129 Link SHEIKH MAHBUB - 231 1ST BN 01/02/1942 - - 28/02/1942
    COLUMN 374.
    130 Link SHEIKH MAQBUL - 666 1ST BN 12/10/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    131 Link SHEIKH NATHAD - 355 1ST BN 06/09/1943
    J. D. 6.
    132 Link SHEIKH RAHMAN - 2796 1ST BN 30/12/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    133 Link SHEIKH SALEY BIN MUHAMMED - 830 1ST BN 29/11/1944
    J. C. 1.
    134 Link SHER MUHAMMAD KHAN - 922 1ST BN 03/08/1945
    COLUMN 374.
    135 Link SHIV RAM - 111 1ST BN 22/03/1945
    COLUMN 370.
    136 Link SUBHAN KHAN - 296 1ST BN 03/02/1945
    40. B. 1.
    137 Link TAHER ALI BEG - 304 1ST BN 23/08/1943
    J. D. 12.
    138 Link THOMAS M 159 1ST BN 26/04/1944
    COLUMN 372.
    139 Link TIMAYYA - 2759 1ST BN 29/07/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    140 Link TURAB KHAN - 751 1ST BN 06/08/1945
    COLUMN 374
    141 Link VIRAYYA K 2816 1ST BN 31/12/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    142 Link YASIN KHAN - 183 1ST BN 14/12/1942
    39. A. 24.
    143 Link YELAYYA - 2823 1ST BN 16/04/1944
    COLUMN 374.
    144 Link YENAKAN - 174 1ST BN 29/07/1943
    COLUMN 374.
    145 Link YUSUF HUSAIN - 280 1ST BN 08/09/1945
    COLUMN 374.
    146 Link YUSUF KHAN - 334 1ST BN 09/12/1943
    J. C. 8.
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Aha! It needs Regiment/Corps = Indian as well; obvious really. I must have missed that when trying the Including = Hyderabad search before.

    Thank you, Clive.

    The honours are even: it was a factor of my stupidity and the empty Regiment/Corps field in their records!

    So, it turns out there were only 1 IO and 18 IORs KIA during the campaign from 12 Jan 42 onwards, none at Kota Bharu.
     
  3. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Two more 1 HYD INF officers:

    002 ADAMS HE SF/6214 1ST BN 26/07/1943 H. B. 11.
    025 SOHRABJI RM SF/6212 1ST BN 19/12/1943 COLUMN 369.

    Haven't yet worked out why they're not in the above list :confused:
     
  4. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    An old thread but I thought that I'd just add photos that I took last year at KZ Flossenbürg which shows the memorial plaque to the members of SOE who were murdered at the camp, some of whose names are on the list quoted from Post #15 onwards.
    The first image shows the remains of the cell building and courtyard and the plaque is on the right hand wall facing the building.

    2009-06-29 06.54.08.jpg 2009-06-29 06.56.09.jpg
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2016
    Charley Fortnum likes this.
  5. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

  6. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    Thanks for that. Here is their memorial stone located next to the SOE one at Flossenbürg.

    2009-06-29 06.56.09.jpg
     
  7. TijgerB

    TijgerB Member

    Do not know if it is still of any use. But in my research I have found that CWGC spell the same unit names in many ways. So what I did was to download ALL casualties from the Indian Armed Forces into a spreadsheet. That way I ended up with nearly 800 names out of around 700 from the re-occupation of the NEI.
     
  8. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Hello Geoff,

    If possible, is it feasible to do a search giving the list of all WW2 casualties from the Royal Army Chaplains' Department? I have read that 179 died in WW1. According to a BBC "People's War" article posted by the Museum of Army Chaplaincy during WW2, there were 96 British Army chaplains who lost their lives plus 38 Commonwealth chaplains (all denominations):

    Link to the BBC "People's War" article:
    BBC - WW2 People's War - Brief History of the Royal Army Chaplains' Department in World War II

    Thanks
     
  9. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Royal Army Chaplain's Department is available on the Regiment list in the search engine. I get 105 hits.
    Also available on CWGC, select regiment in the Regiment field - also 105 hits (but it seems a bit buggy this morning, crashed twice)

    Geoff
     
    ritsonvaljos likes this.
  10. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Thanks, Geoff.

    I've just tried a search on your search engine for chaplains using Royal Army Chaplains' Department in the 'Regiment' list and also get 105 hits which is slightly higher than the figure given by the Chaplains' Museum in their "People's War" article.

    For selected Commonwealth countries, the total number of Commonwealth chaplain casualties in WW2 is higher than the 38 given by the Chaplains' Museum (i.e. at least 47):
    'Australian Army Chaplains' Department' gives 19 hits;
    'New Zealand Chaplains' Department' gives 2 hits;
    'Canadian Chaplains' Service' gives 20 hits;
    'South African Chaplain's Department gives 2 hits;
    'Indian Ecclesiastical Establishment' gives 4 hits.
     

Share This Page