Spitfire Mk Iv

Discussion in 'Modelling' started by GUMALANGI, May 15, 2005.

  1. Gnomey

    Gnomey World Travelling Doctor

    Only the "303 brownings were fully recessed on Spitfires (and Hurricanes). All others (20mm Hispanos (MkII and MkV) and the "50 Brownings where only semi-recessed.
     
  2. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    How do you store a plane on a carrier that has such a large wingspan and wings that do not fold? The elevators would have to be huge wouldn't they (the carrier elevators that is)?

    They had folding wings!

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  3. jimbotosome

    jimbotosome Discharged

    They had folding wings!

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    Holy cow! I have never seen one of those before. Assuming it flew like a regular Spit, you would have to say that's the most dangerous of the carrier based fighters in WWII. It would have had a field day against the Zekes. Of course so did the F4U Corsairs and F6F Hellcats, but I would assume a Seafire could outperform those planes. The narrow gear might be a little tricky on a carrier landing. They are hard enough with a wide set of gear. A Spitfire's wings are so friggen long, you have to fold them twice! Interesting.
     
  4. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Holy cow! I have never seen one of those before. Assuming it flew like a regular Spit, you would have to say that's the most dangerous of the carrier based fighters in WWII. It would have had a field day against the Zekes. Of course so did the F4U Corsairs and F6F Hellcats, but I would assume a Seafire could outperform those planes. The narrow gear might be a little tricky on a carrier landing. They are hard enough with a wide set of gear. A Spitfire's wings are so friggen long, you have to fold them twice! Interesting.

    The reality was that, the seafire was not really as good as teh original spitfire because it had to be greatly modified to suit the naval enviroment!

    The seafury which replaced it, was considered to be the greatest piston engined fighter ever built.
     
  5. jimbotosome

    jimbotosome Discharged

    The reality was that, the seafire was not really as good as teh original spitfire because it had to be greatly modified to suit the naval enviroment!

    The seafury which replaced it, was considered to be the greatest piston engined fighter ever built.
    But the seafurys were post war where they not?
     
  6. jimbotosome

    jimbotosome Discharged

    BTW: In the picture of the seafire, I see a large protrusion of the cylinder heads made into the top of the cowling. I didn't remember the spit having those. Does it have a larger engine to compensate for more weight caused by the more structurally complex wing and probably frame to take the shock of a carrier landing?
     
  7. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    But the seafurys were post war where they not?

    Yes! They really only saw action in Koream where one shot down a Mig 15 after a fight!
     
  8. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    BTW: In the picture of the seafire, I see a large protrusion of the cylinder heads made into the top of the cowling. I didn't remember the spit having those. Does it have a larger engine to compensate for more weight caused by the more structurally complex wing and probably frame to take the shock of a carrier landing?

    That is a MK47, which was the equivilent of the F24 and they both had griffen engines. That is why you see the cylinder heads. The engines were the same size despite the different weight of airframe etc.

    The Seafire saw service in korea as well
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Yes! They really only saw action in Koream where one shot down a Mig 15 after a fight!
    Is the guy's plane at Hendon? (childhood memory of the story seems to place it there.)
    I always imagined him walking into the mess... "I just bagged a MIG!"......."Yeah right. pull the other one!" etc. etc.
     
  10. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Is the guy's plane at Hendon? (childhood memory of the story seems to place it there.)
    I always imagined him walking into the mess... "I just bagged a MIG!"......."Yeah right. pull the other one!" etc. etc.

    it was Fleet Air Arm bod who shot it down, so I do not think it is in hendon.
     
  11. jimbotosome

    jimbotosome Discharged

    That is a MK47, which was the equivilent of the F24 and they both had griffen engines. That is why you see the cylinder heads. The engines were the same size despite the different weight of airframe etc.

    The Seafire saw service in korea as well
    So if the engine fits into the frame it is a Merlin, if it is so big it is poking out of the cowling its a Griffen. Does that about sum it up?
     
  12. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    So if the engine fits into the frame it is a Merlin, if it is so big it is poking out of the cowling its a Griffen. Does that about sum it up?

    the griffen was a bigger engine! we had the sea griffens on the Mk2 TTls in the Marine branch, rated at 950 Shp, three of them could push the boat up to 35Kts. I was told that it was great ride at that speed!

    The Shackleton Maritime patrol aircraft used griffens as well.
     
  13. jimbotosome

    jimbotosome Discharged

    the griffen was a bigger engine! we had the sea griffens on the Mk2 TTls in the Marine branch, rated at 950 Shp, three of them could push the boat up to 35Kts. I was told that it was great ride at that speed!

    The Shackleton Maritime patrol aircraft used griffens as well.
    I guess they are like the Allisons. In-lines make good boat engines too. I think they can rev pretty high which is good for a boat which needs top end over hole shots. They still use the Allisons in unlimited hydroplane racing.
     
  14. Fox

    Fox Junior Member

    That looks outstanding:)
     

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