Malta stonewall camo

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  1. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    iNteresting, what colour scheme is that?
     
    kfz, Apr 23, 2007
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  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Looks like the same vehicle in most pictures so from this image is it safe to guess at a 'standard' Dark Yellow, Olive Green & Red Brown pattern? Highly speculative business from Black and white though.

    kvmalt.jpg
     
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    von Poop, Apr 23, 2007
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  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Just been informed that the Germans may (I have no other reference yet) have been planning to use captured KVII's in an invasion of Malta...
    The KV-2s with German cupolas were lovely ;)
     
    Za Rodinu, Apr 23, 2007
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  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Blimey, a KV-2 coming ashore on Malta would have been a sight to behold.
     
    Owen, Apr 23, 2007
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  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Pottered onto a couple more stonewall shots while looking up Phylo's Malta 2pdr Query:

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    ROYAL AIR FORCE OPERATIONS IN MALTA, GIBRALTAR AND THE MEDITERRANEAN, 1940-1945.. © IWM (CM 4663)IWM Non Commercial Licence
    A Bren gun carrier of the Malta Garrison tows a trolley-load of 250-lb GP bombs to a Vickers Wellington in its dispersal at Luqa.


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    THE BRITISH ARMY ON MALTA 1942 | Imperial War Museums
    The crew work on the Vickers gun of a Light Tank Mk VI during an exercise in the Maltese countryside, 24 May 1942.
     
    von Poop, Oct 30, 2012
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  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    von Poop, Aug 30, 2013
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  7. arnhem44

    arnhem44 Member

    Though I like the camo pattern to use on a tankmodel, can anyone explain how this wall-pattern would actually help camouflage on Malta ?
    Look at all the above pictures , more plain dirt than habitats with big boulder walls...
    Not even the buildings of Malta 1941 have this distinct pattern.
    Not even rubble/ruins would have this effect.

    Standing still, and running/driving around with this malta stonewall camo would reveal your tank/truck/helmet even faster, I believe.

    :I
     
    arnhem44, Aug 30, 2013
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  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Exactly, the big boulder walls that you mention.
     
    Owen, Aug 30, 2013
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  9. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    There are many miles of stone wall on Malta and Gozo just like in the last pic posted by Owen, the camo must have been very effective as lots of equipment even down to tin hats were painted with it!
     
    RemeDesertRat, Sep 1, 2013
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  10. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Malta at War museum
    Malta WM.jpg
     
    dbf, Aug 10, 2016
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  11. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Diane,
    I think Clive will be interested in this Bofor gun.

    Regards
    Tom
     
    Smudger Jnr, Aug 10, 2016
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  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Nice bit of Stonewall from IWM, spotted while looking for transit crates :unsure:

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    THE BRITISH ARMY ON MALTA 1942. © IWM (GM 1379)     IWM Non Commercial License

    BRITISH CRUISER DELIVERS ANTI AIRCRAFT AMMUNITION TO MALTA. 10 MAY 1942, MALTA. HMS WELSHMAN ARRIVED ON THE MORNING OF 10 MAY, LADEN WITH AMMUNITION FOR THE ISLAND'S ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS. NAVAL RATINGS AND TROOPS AT ONCE GOT TO WORK UNLOADING AND DESPITE THREE MAJOR ATTACKS ON THE SHIP, SHE WAS UNLOADED AND HAD LEFT HARBOUR BY NIGHTFALL WITHOUT RECEIVING ANY DAMAGE.

    BRITISH CRUISER DELIVERS ANTI AIRCRAFT AMMUNITION TO MALTA. 10 MAY 1942, MALTA. HMS WELSHMAN ARRIVED ON THE MORNING OF 10 MAY, LADEN WITH AMMUNITION FOR THE ISLAND'S ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS. NAVAL RATINGS AND TROOPS AT ONCE GOT TO WORK UNLOADING AND DESPITE THREE MAJOR ATTACKS ON THE SHIP, SHE WAS UNLOADED AND HAD LEFT HARBOUR BY NIGHTFALL WITHOUT RECEIVING ANY DAMAGE.
     
    von Poop, Feb 6, 2018
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  13. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Until the Administrator of this fine forum tweeted a photo of this today I'd never heard of stonewall camouflage.
    Still learning stuff about the war. Marvellous.
     
    Jonathan Ball, Jan 15, 2019
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  14. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    And the administrator had not heard of a hope to get a Tilly out there in stonewall either.
     
    von Poop, Jan 15, 2019
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  15. dbf

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    dbf, Apr 16, 2019
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  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Cracking stuff.
    I do hope they find the Matilda they're currently looking for...
     
    von Poop, Apr 16, 2019
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  17. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    You mean some folks are looking to see if a Matilda is under the earth somewhere on Malta? That would be pretty great to find...

    That Matilda photo is interesting as it shows a variation in the camouflage pattern. I thought it was always just two-colour but that seems to show an darker "stone" colour arround the edges of the "stones".
     
    Chris C, Apr 16, 2019
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  18. dbf

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    MALTA AT WAR MUSEUM
     
    dbf, Apr 16, 2019
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  19. dbf

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    dbf, Apr 16, 2019
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  20. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    WORKSHOPS AND CAMP SCHOOL IN MALTA [Allocated Title]
    Category: film
    Creator: War Office Film Unit (Production company), Smith, Brian (Lieutenant) (Production individual)
    Production date: 1942-06-09

    Object description: Repairing motorcycles at the RAOC workshops.
    Screenshot 2019-04-16 at 22.36.23.png
     
    dbf, Apr 16, 2019
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