1198393 Reginald A DAWES, RAFVR, 86th Squadron

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  1. Alan Fewtrell

    Alan Fewtrell Member

    I'm researching a Reginald Dawes remembered at the Castle Bromwich War memorial in Birmingham. I believe he may well be Reginald Arthur Dawes 86th Squadron RAFVR 1198393 b 1Q1914 in Birmingham and died 7th September 1941, also remembered at Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. Parents Arthur William and Emma (nee Hadley). His wife is recorded as Jeanne Lilian Dawes, but can find no marriage.
    Can't find how he died. Any help out there?
    Kind regards
    Alan
     
  2. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Alan excellent work you are doing
    please find attached Runnymede panel from my photo collection
    Re his service the only way forward is his service records
    I am sure forum members can add a bit more


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    Sergeant DAWES, REGINALD ARTHUR
    Service Number 1198393

    Died 07/09/1941

    Aged 27

    86 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of Arthur William and Emma Dawes; husband of Jeanne Lilian Dawes, of Finchley, Middlesex
    Commemorated at RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

    Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
    Number of casualties: 20275

    Cemetery/memorial reference: Panel 42.
     
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  4. Alan Fewtrell

    Alan Fewtrell Member

    You guys are unbelievable, thank you so much.
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    the below plus the other crew members

    Bristol Beaufort I. W6542 BX-D. Missing since:07-09-1941


    Sergeant (Wireless Op./Air Gunner)BUTT, EDWARD LESLIE
    Service Number 1262088

    Died 07/09/1941

    Aged 27

    86 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of Albert John and Elsie Anne Butt, of Drayton, Portsmouth.

    Sergeant UDALE, WILLIAM TIMOTHY
    Service Number 1260382

    Died 07/09/1941

    86 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Hampton Wick War Memorial - Wikipedia
    Sergeant LONGHURST, SIDNEY ROBERT
    Service Number 1251534

    Died 07/09/1941

    Aged 19

    86 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Arnhem 1944 The Missing ones

    Son of Robert Walter and Esther Emma Longhurst, of Isleworth, Middlesex.
     
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  6. Lloyd Dawes

    Lloyd Dawes New Member

    Reginald Arthur Dawes was my grandfather. Killed MIA 7 September 1941 over North Sea. Many thanks for the research.
     
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  7. Alan Fewtrell

    Alan Fewtrell Member

    Hi Lloyd, have you and email address and I can send you what information I have. Are you able to provide his date of birth, marriage date etc?
    Kind regards
    Alan
     
  8. Lloyd Dawes

    Lloyd Dawes New Member

    Hi Alan, unfortunately I do not have my grandfather's DoB or his marriage date. Interestingly, I was checking the operational records for Squadron 86 for the month of September 1941 via the National Archives, and there is no record of my grandfather's flight (aircraft W6542) or of the crash of 7 September, ref records AIR-27-708-10/11. Aircraft W6542 flew a number of missions the preceding month of August, but my neither my grandfather nor his fellow aircrew feature in the records for that month either. This is all very odd. I am going to have to go and visit the National Archives to research this further.
    Kind regards,
    Lloyd
    lloyddawes (AT) yahoo.co.uk
     
  9. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    I have located the marriage & 1939 register entry for Reginald Dawes & his wife. This has been passed on to Lloyd Dawes via PM.
     
  10. cas straatman

    cas straatman New Member

    On September 7, 1941, the W6542 crashes.
    The Vlieland Cultural Association gave me access to German reports. On that date I saw a claim of the two batteries of Texel, with support / comment "Ugruko IJmuiden". The times of both batteries are the same: 01.07 hours.
    Because no other losses of the RAF are known on September 7 (to me), the chance seems real that the W6542 tried to fly across Texel, when it was fired on by two batteries, and then diverted to the south. The battery in IJmuiden has been killed. I find the long time between the crash and the discovery of a crew member on the beach of Ameland logical. If the plane had landed in the Waddenzee, the body would have washed up much earlier, I think. (On some websites, the IJsselmeer is listed as a crash spot. Impossible.
     

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