Operation Blackcock - Posterholt

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by Paul van de Winkel, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. Hi every body,
    In 2009 I bought a house (with my wife) in Posterholt, the Netherlands.
    When we start to rebuild it, we discovered some scars from the second world war. Some shrapnels were stuck in the wooden beams in the roof, stairs and floors.
    I also heard from my neighbours wife, who grew up in our house, that a English soldier died in our basement on the 25th of January.
    When we were finished with our home improvement, we start searching for the man, who died in our house.
    This seemed to be James Frederick Ryder (4037041), lance corporal of the 9th bn Durham Light Infantry. We have found a lot of information about him and after starting a post on this site (search of James Frederick Ryder) I eventually got the name of his grand daughter. We send her a lot of documentation about her grand father. Unfortunately she aborted the conversation before she sent us a photo of her grand father..

    But there are also three other soldiers, who gave there lives in our village in the second world war.
    I hope there is someone, who can help me finding more information about those men.

    On the 29th of January 1945,Thomas Heyes (14671595), gunner of the 65 (the Norfolk Yeonmary) anti tank Regt, Royal Artillery died in Holst, an outside area of Posterholt. He was 19 years old. He was initially buried near a farm house and reburried in the Jonkerbos in Nijmegen.

    On the 8th of february Joseph Donaldson (4460551) of the 9th Bn of the Durham Light Infantry died, after being in a fight with a german patrol. When he and his team were redrawing to our village a german artillery started firing towards our village and hit some houses near the church. Donaldson was killed in this artllery attack. Donaldson was 28 years old.

    On the 20th of february Ernest Brooks (1559995) of the Army Catering Corps died when he was working in the kitchen of the 9th Bn of the DLI. This happened on the sidewalk in front of our youth house (then KJV-huis, nowadays the KA-huis). He was 22 years old and was married on the 24th of January 1945.

    Ryder, Brooks and Donaldson were initially burried a little further on our road before reburrials in the Jonkerbos in Nijmegen.
    I want to know, who these men were. Can somebody help my finding relatives, documents, pictures, etc. of thes men?

    Paul
     
  2. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    It looks like Gunner Thomas Heyes was in 260 Battery, 65 Anti-Tank Regt.

    War Diary entries for two of the Batteries attached.

    Regards

    Danny

    257  260  Battery.jpg
     
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  3. Hi Danny,

    thank you for the war diary. I didn't see it before. The war diary from the 260 Battery is the one, where Heyes belonged to.. I don't know mutch about Thomas Heyes. He died on the other side of the village and I the first time of him when I got a copie of a letter, that the maire of our village send to the Red Cross for reburrial.
     

    Attached Files:

  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Thomas Heyes
    Given Initials: T
    Rank: Gunner
    Death Date: 29 Jan 1945
    Number: 14671595
    Birth Place: Wigan
    Residence: Wigan
    Branch at Enlistment: Royal Artillery
    Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    Regiment at Death: Royal Artillery
    Branch at Death: Royal Artillery

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Thomas Heyes
    Registration Date: 1925
    Registration district: Wigan
    Inferred County: Greater Manchester
    Re-registration Year: 1925
    Mother's Maiden Name: Hughes
    Volume Number: 8c
    Page Number: 93

    TD
     
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  5. Tricky Dicky

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    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Joseph Donaldson
    Given Initials: J
    Rank: Private
    Death Date: 8 Feb 1945
    Number: 4460551
    Birth Place: Durham (County)
    Residence: West Hartlepool
    Branch at Enlistment: Infantry
    Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    Regiment at Death: Durham Light Infantry
    Branch at Death: Infantry

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Joseph C Donaldson
    Registration Date: 1916
    Registration district: Easington
    Inferred County: Durham
    Re-registration Year: 1916
    Mother's Maiden Name: Carver
    Volume Number: 10a
    Page Number: 955

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Joseph C Donaldson
    Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1944
    Registration district: Durham Eastern
    Inferred County: Durham
    Spouse: Hannah Davison
    Volume Number: 10a
    Page Number: 1009

    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Joseph Donaldson
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Single
    Birth Date: 26 Apr 1916
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 7 Oxford Street
    Residence Place: Seaham, Durham, England
    Occupation: Butcher (Salesman)
    Schedule Number: 280
    Sub Schedule Number: 4
    Enumeration District: FFYI
    Registration district: 552 - 2
    Inferred Father: Ernest Donaldson
    Inferred Mother: Mary A Donaldson
    Household Members:
    Name
    Ernest Donaldson
    Mary A Donaldson
    Ernest Donaldson
    Joseph Donaldson
    Elsie Donaldson
    Mary Donaldson

    TD
     
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  6. Tricky Dicky

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    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Ernest Brooks
    Given Initials: E
    Rank: Private
    Death Date: 20 Feb 1945
    Number: 1559995
    Birth Place: Newcastle-on-Tyne
    Residence: Lancashire
    Branch at Enlistment: Other Corps
    Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    Regiment at Death: Army Catering Corps
    Branch at Death: Other Corps


    Possibly
    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Ernest R Brooks
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Single
    Birth Date: 4 Jul 1922
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 3 Kew Road
    Residence Place: Formby, Lancashire, England
    Occupation: Farm Labourer
    Schedule Number: 64
    Sub Schedule Number: 4
    Enumeration District: NUTH
    Registration district: 455A/1
    Inferred Father: Thomas E Brooks
    Inferred Mother: Sarah J Brooks
    Household Members:
    Name
    Thomas E Brooks
    Sarah J Brooks
    Glady J Brooks
    Ernest R Brooks
    Vera J Brooks

    TD
     
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  7. Hi TD,

    that's a lot of information!
    On the remembrance-certificate of the Jonkerbos cemetry is written, that Joseph Donaldson is the son of Ernest and Polly Donaldson. Is Polly a nickname for mother Mary or is Mary / Polly the new wife of Ernest Donaldson?

    From Ernest Brooks I know, that he married Margaret Clark in Westmoreland on the 24th of January 1945 and that maybe they became a son Nicholas R Brooks, who has been born in oct-nov-dec 1945 in Bath-Somerset.


    Paul
     
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Ernest Brooks
    Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1945
    Registration district: Westmorland South
    Inferred County: Westmorland
    Spouse: Margaret Clark
    Volume Number: 10b
    Page Number: 1375


    There were 2 x Brooks born in 1945 to a mother whose maiden name was Clark
    Name: Nicholas R Brooks
    Registration Date: 1945
    Registration district: Bath
    Inferred County: Avon
    Re-registration Year: 1945
    Mother's Maiden Name: Clark
    Volume Number: 5c
    Page Number: 643

    Name: Frederick Brooks
    Registration Date: 1945
    Registration district: Boston
    Inferred County: Lincolnshire
    [Boston is in Lincolnshire UK, not Leicestershire nor Rutland]
    [Boston is in LINCOLNSHIRE for the 2nd time of updating]
    Re-registration Year: 1945
    Mother's Maiden Name: Clark
    Volume Number: 7a
    Page Number: 778

    Your guess - I would suggest that obtaining a copy of a birth certificate may have details of the father thereby confirming [or not] if one of them is indeed Ernest's son.

    TD
     
  9. Hi TD,

    don't know, where I can find a copy of a birth certificate. If you see the names of father, mother, Ernest and his sisters, than I think, that Nicholas R Brooks is our man...
    Thomas E(rnest) Brooks --> Ernest R(…) Brooks --> Nicholas R(…) Brooks
    Sarah J(…) Brooks --> Glady J(…) Brooks
    --> Vera J(…) Brooks

    But your right...This is a assumption..

    Paul
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    You would need to contact the Registrar at Bath, details of how to obtain a copy certificate are - http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/services/births-marriages-and-deaths/copies-certificates there is also the contact details, I have always found all Registrars dept's to be very helpful if you contact them and explain.

    Sometimes confirmation of assumptions is necessary in order to move on successfully to the next step

    TD
     
  11. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Lancashire Marriages: 1914
    BROOKS, Thomas E
    PILKINGTON, Sarah J
    St Andrew's, Southport


    Births

    Brooks, Alice L Pilkington Ormskirk Jun 1915
    Brooks, Thomas J Pilkington Ormskirk Jun 1916
    Brooks, John V Pilkington Ormskirk Dec 1918 (died 1921)
    Brooks, Gladys J Pilkington Ormskirk Sep 1920
    Brooks, Ernest R Pilkington Ormskirk Sep 1922
    Brooks, Vera J Pilkington Ormskirk Sep 1926


    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    3 Kew Road, Formby U.D., Lancashire
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    Thomas E Brooks 17 Mar 1894 Builder's Labourer
    Sarah J Brooks 20 May 1892 Unpaid Domestic Duties
    Gladys J Brooks 23 Jun 1920 Solicitor's Clerk
    Ernest R Brooks 04 Jul 1922 Farm Labourer
    Vera J Poole (Brooks) 10 Jun 1926 At School
     
  12. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Lancashire Marriages: 1925
    HEYES, Thomas
    HUGHES, Margaret Grace
    St. Catherine, Wigan

    Lancashire Births: 1925
    HEYES, Thomas HUGHES Wigan (East)


    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    21 Field Street, Wigan C.B., Lancashire
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    Thomas Heyes 26 Jan 1899 Colliery Hewer Heavy Worker
    Margaret Grace Doherty (Heyes) 16 Nov 1896 Unpaid Domestic Duties
    Thomas Heyes 04 Sep 1925 At School
    Florence Hughes (Heyes) 02 Sep 1872 Retired
     
  13. Wow guys,

    I'm impressed.. Gonna try if I can find more about them!

    Paul
     
  14. Hi Everybody,

    I have some questions about some soldiers, who fought here during operation Blackcock.
    I've found out, that a pte R. Link 14743422 from 9 Bn DLI got wounded in action on the 25th of january 1945. That's the same day, that L/Cl Ryder died of his wounds after a fight, when he was send out on patrol to investigate the bridge a little further on the road, where I'm living. It's possible, that this private Link also ended up in my basement, after he got wounded, just like Ryder did.
    I can't find anything about him, so I think that he survived the war.

    Last week I've found another soldier, who was reported to be burried in Posterholt in a Field grave. He was pte F Dale, 11263654, also 9 Bn DLI and died on the 4th of february 1945. This grave was situated only 50 meters over the municipality boundary and is nearby my house. He is reburried on the war cemetry of Nederweert.

    I want to know, who these men were. Can somebody help my finding relatives, documents, pictures, etc. of these men?

    Paul
     
  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Fred Dale
    Casualty

    Original grave concentration
    [​IMG]


    James Ryder
    Casualty
    Lance Corporal
    RYDER, JAMES FREDERICK
    Service Number 4037041
    Died 25/01/1945
    Aged 28
    9th Bn.
    Durham Light Infantry
    Son of James and Martha Ryder; husband of Constance Winifred Ryder, of Stone, Staffordshire.
    [​IMG]


    If Link survived the war then it will need DLI specialists to provide, if they can, more details on him, and also Dale as we only have his name and nothing else
    TD
     
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  16. Tricky Dicky

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    James Ryder - all I can find at present is his marriage which as least provides some details of his wife

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: James F Ryder
    Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940
    Registration district: Tenbury
    Inferred County: Worcestershire
    Spouse: Constance W Tomlinson
    Volume Number: 6c
    Page Number: 501

    TD
     
  17. Hi TD,

    I've a lot of information of Ryder. Thanks to this forum (including your support) I found a grand daughter of Ryder. Unfortunately she stopped our email-contact.
    He has been send on a patrol to investigate, if the bridge towards our village (Posterholt) was still intact and he had to find out, how much the German resistance was. He observed the bridge for a day from the house of a forester on the end of the road. On the 25th of january 1945 he reached the bridge by crawling through a ditch next to the road.
    When he crawled out of the ditch he got shot, because of German Machine Gun fire. On the Posting order, you can see his name and the name of private Link, who got wounded that same day.

    Paul Posting order Ryder.JPG
     
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  18. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Nothing concrete but perhaps someone can find more?
    Kyle
     
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  19. Tricky Dicky

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    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Robert Link
    Registration Date: 1926
    Registration district: Leeds
    Inferred County: West Yorkshire
    Re-registration Year: 1926
    Mother's Maiden Name: Bywood
    Volume Number: 9b
    Page Number: 620

    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Robert Link
    Gender: Male
    Marital status: Single
    Birth Date: 16 Mar 1926
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 14
    Residence Place: Leeds, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
    Occupation: At School
    Schedule Number: 142
    Sub Schedule Number: 5
    Enumeration District: KGIE
    Registration district: 500- 2
    Inferred Father: Clever Link
    Inferred Mother: Mary E Link
    Household Members:
    Name
    Clever Link
    Mary E Link
    Gladys Link
    This record is officially closed.
    Robert Link
    This record is officially closed.
    Lily Link


    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Robert Link
    Death Age: 55
    Birth Date: 16 Mar 1926
    Registration Date: Sep 1981
    Registration district: Leeds
    Inferred County: West Yorkshire
    Volume: 05
    Page: 0741

    IF this is the right man then you could obtain his service records to compare and see if he was wounded 25/1/1945

    TD
     
  20. Hi Kyle and TD,

    I'm impressed again. I'm going to look, if I can find something more about him!

    Paul
     

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