Non Combatant Corps

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by Paul Reed, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. Osborne2

    Osborne2 Well-Known Member

  2. Drayton

    Drayton Senior Member

    Thanks for this.

    Pritchard, C H was C Hardinge Pritchard (c 1920-2007), whom I have mentioned previously. After Bomb Disposal, he transferred to RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance, and was one of a group of conscientious objectors who parachuted into Normandy on D Day. He was taken prisoner around July 1944.

    A few more details on some of the NCC Bomb Disposal men mentioned earlier:

    Frederick Agar, 1919-1992
    Ernest Baxter, transferred to RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance, Normandy, D Day
    Cyril John Dain Bennett, born c 1917
    Thomas William Chantrell, 1916-2001
    Peter Eaton, 1914-1993
    Alec Forster, born c 1918
    Bernard Lionel Home, attd, 75 Bomb Disposal Section, RE; transferred to RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance, Normandy, then SE Asia
    George H Jones
    John Edgar Leach, transferred to RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance, landed Normandy D Day, died, CWGC
    Arthur John Marsden
    Victor Noel Newcomb, transferred to RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance; landed Normandy; PoW, repatriated
    Henry Rowell, Oliver, born 1915, transferred. RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance, Normandy and Far East
    Wilfred A Reeves
    Stanley Rickman, transferred to RAMC, Parachute Field Ambulance, Normandy
    William Rowe
    Christopher Saunders
    Robert Frederick Arthur Smith
    Ernest Carl Trope Spring
    Kenneth Arthur Spring, resigned CO status, Oct 1941, enlisted RE, 15 Bomb Disposal Coy, Dec 1941; commissioned, RA, Jul 1944
    Norman Basil Town, 1915-1987
    Anthony White
    Christopher Wren
     
  3. Don B

    Don B Member

    I was delighted to come across your exchange about the NCC with mention of my wife’s late uncle, William John Pudney from Hornchurch, Essex and another member of the same Pioneer Corps NCC Bomb Disposal Company - ‘Wilkie JH’. According W John Pudney’s widow, it was a John Alexander Scott Wilkie in the same Bomb Disposal unit who suggested to John Pudney that he go back with him to his home in Abernethy Perthshire after the war (where he was to meet the lady who became his wife). I wonder if Wilkie JH and JAS Wilkie are one and the same person? Have you perhaps come across any more info, photos etc about the war service of these two conscientious objectors. I would be grateful for your advice. Many thanks.

     
  4. ChrisR

    ChrisR Senior Member

    Don,
    I'm afraid I have no more info, though the 'H' in JH could easily be a typo misread from an 'A'.
    You could try getting their records from the MoD for more info.-
    Get a copy of military service records
    If you do find anymore info/photos, please come back and add them to this thread.
    Good Luck!
    Chris
     
  5. Don B

    Don B Member

    Many thanks for this useful advice, Chris.
    Regards,
    Don
     
  6. Drayton

    Drayton Senior Member

    You refer to "the same Pioneer Corps NCC Bomb Disposal Company". The Pioneer Corps and the Non-Combatant Corps were two separate Corps. All the conscientious objectors mentioned in this thread were members of the Non-Combatant Corps. None of them was a member of the Pioneer Corps. They were members of the NCC Bomb Disposal Company, pure and simple.
     
  7. Don B

    Don B Member

    Thanks for the useful correction, Drayton. It was the NCC Bomb Disposal Company (therefore not the Pioneer Corps).
     
  8. Drayton

    Drayton Senior Member

    I acknowledged this post at the time, when I had not paid much attention to the intracies of Army service numbers.

    With greater experience, I can make two points in response:

    It appears that all men enlisted in the WW2 Non-Combatant Corps, who were necessarily registered combatant objectors exempted from combatant service, were allocated numbers beginning 9700. They retained the number when transferred to a unit such as RAMC, where they could retain their conscientious objector status, and even when transferred to a unit such as RE, where they lost their CO status (the latter kind of transfer could only happen on the initiative of the man concerned).

    The 9700 series of numbers are all 8-digit, whereas "ordinary" Army numbers appear to be 7-digit.
     
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  9. Don B

    Don B Member

    Thanks for this, Drayton - helpful information.
     
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  11. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    "story of joining the Non-Combatants Corps in Liverpool and attachment to the Pioneer Corps 12/1940. Aspects of period with Pioneer Corps in GB, 12/1940-1942: purpose of Non-Combatants Corps; description of billets in Liverpool Old College; initial training including drill."

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  12. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    1014 hitchman.jpg

    Another NCC soldiers AB64 that I had missed before - also added below the ones posted earlier but messed up by photobucket


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  13. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    And one more

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  14. Gelert

    Gelert Active Member

    27 CWGC Casulaties with NCC numbers, not serving with NCC:

    Spr ARMSTRONG, FREDERICK, 97002163, 12/07/1944, Royal Engineers, 253 Field Coy., France CAMBES-EN-PLAINE WAR CEMETERY

    Pte BASS, ANTHONY DAVID, 97005812, 18/08/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, 224 Parachute Field Amb., France RANVILLE WAR CEMETERY

    Pte BRAY, NOEL CECIL, 97003482, 25/01/1942, Royal Engineers, United Kingdom, HIGHGATE CEMETERY

    Pte BROOKS, JACK, 97006513, Age 22, 24/03/1945, Royal Army Medical Corps, The Parachute Regiment, A.A.C., Germany REICHSWALD FOREST WAR CEMETERY

    Pte BUCHAN, RONALD CHARLES, 97005471, Age 24, 13/05/1945 Royal Army Pay Corps, India, DELHI WAR CEMETERY

    Pte CARTER, DENNIS JESSE EDWARD, 97001613, 09/12/1941, Royal Army Medical Corps, Israel and Palestine KHAYAT BEACH WAR CEMETERY

    Pte CINI , ADRIAN FRANCIS ARMANDO, 97005484, 24/12/1943, Royal Army Pay Corps, United Kingdom, ST. PANCRAS CEMETERY

    L/Cpl CLARK, MALCOLM JAMES EDWARD, 97003883, Age 31, 17/08/1945, Intelligence Corps, United Kingdom BOURNEMOUTH CREMATORIUM

    Pte, DAVIS, CHARLES BROCKLESBY, 97003494, Age 26, 12/02/1944, King's Own Scottish Borderers , 2nd Bn., Myanmar RANGOON MEMORIAL

    Pte ETHERIDGE, LESLIE CHARLES, 97000754, Age 26, 05/01/1945, Royal Army Medical Corps, The Parachute Regiment, A.A.C., Belgium HOTTON WAR CEMETERY

    Pte FELTHAM, GLADSTONE DAVID, 97005711, Age 26, 17/12/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, United Kingdom MIDDLESBROUGH (ACKLAM) CEMETERY

    Pte HARVEY, THOMAS, 97001163, Age 26, 16/06/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, 225 Parachute Field Amb. France RANVILLE WAR CEMETERY

    Pte HOBROW, WILLIAM FRANCES, 97005570, Age 22, 11/07/1944, Hampshire Regiment, 1st Bn. France, BAYEUX WAR CEMETERY

    Pte HODGES, JOHN BENJAMIN, 97004475, Age 33, 13/05/1946, Royal Army Medical Corps, 224 Parachute Field Amb. United Kingdom, SOUTHAMPTON OLD CEMETERY

    Pte HUTTON, PHILIP, 97004379, Age 31, 06/06/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, 224 Parachute Field Amb., France, RANVILLE WAR CEMETERY

    Pte JAMIESON GEORGE MCKINNES, 97000993, Age 25, 07/04/1945, Royal Army Medical Corps, The Parachute Regiment, A.A.C. Germany BECKLINGEN WAR CEMETERY

    Cpl JONES, GEORGE H., 97000916, Age 28, 22/05/1945 Royal Engineers, 4 Bomb Disposal Coy., United Kingdom BRIGHTON CITY (BEAR ROAD) CEMETERY

    Gnr JONES, EDWARD THOMAS, 97001061, Age 24, 18/07/1944 Royal Horse Artillery, 13 (Honourable Artillery Coy.) Regt. France BAYEUX MEMORIAL

    WO1 KENNERLEY, JOHN OLIVER, 97007685 Age 21, 08/12/1946, Royal Army Educational Corps, Israel and Palestine, RAMLEH WAR CEMETERY

    Pte LEACH, JOHN EDGAR, 97003462, Age 33, 06/06/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, 224 Parachute Field Amb., France BRUCOURT CHURCHYARD

    Pte LEWIS, JACK, 97004018, Age 24, 06/06/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, 224 Parachute Field Amb, France BRUCOURT CHURCHYARD

    Pte LIDDELL, DONALD STEWART, 97003530, Age 32, 21/06/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, The Parachute Regiment, A.A.C., France LA DELIVRANDE WAR CEMETERY, DOUVRES

    Gnr MURRIE, JOHN, 97001000, Age 23, 19/01/1943, Royal Artillery, 17 Field Regt., Tunisia MEDJEZ-EL-BAB WAR CEMETERY

    Pte SARGENT, WILLIAM PHILIP, 97003318, Age 24, 06/06/1944, Royal Army Medical Corps, 224 Parachute Field Amb., France RANVILLE WAR CEMETERY

    Tpr SHEAVES, ALFRED ERIC, 97001141, Age 25, 22/01/1943, Royal Tank Regiment, R.A.C., 48th RTR, United Kingdom, SOLIHULL CEMETERY

    L/Cpl SPOONER, WILFRED JOHN, 97002775, Age 29, 20/09/1946, Royal Army Medical Corps, United Kingdom BRIGHTON (EXTRA-MURAL) BOROUGH CEMETERY

    S/Sgt SUSSKIND, JOFFRE ALEXANDER ZYSKA, 97004516, Age 26, 19/04/1945, Royal Engineers, Netherlands ARNHEM OOSTERBEEK WAR CEMETERY
     
  15. Gelert

    Gelert Active Member

    Bell, John Rhys 97001308 15 BD Coy
    Campbell John 97001375 21 BD Coy
    Green, Sandall John 97002379 20 BD Coy
    Kitson, Henry James Buller 97004748 4 BD Coy
    Lewis, Ronald Graham 97000679 5 BD Coy
    Norman, Geoffrey 97000871 15 BD Coy
    Page, William Leonard 97001932 8 BD Coy
    Raddon, Hugo James 97005954 9 BD Coy
    Roberts, Arthur Churchill 97000938 22 BD Coy
    Spouge John Douglas. 97004613 8 BD Coy
    Spring Kenneth Arthur 97005697 15 BD Coy
    Suter, Charles Graham 97001296 25 BD Coy
    Taylor E. 97002950 20 BD Coy
    Taylor, Stanley Hector 97004674 134 BD Coy
    Terry, John Christopher Ernest 97002275 22 BD Coy
    Tilney, R.G. 97005023 2 BD Gp
    Tyrrell, Norman 97004163 22 BD Coy
    Wallace, Arthur Millington 97005033 5 BD Coy
    Williams, Kenneth Vaughan 97005212 5 BD Coy
    Wraight, E.P. 97000965 1 BD Coy
     

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