Lend Lease Numbers From Russian Site

Oh look here too.
http://www.o5m6.de/main.html
This site is fantastic, numbers mind boogling. All backed up by refernces and sources.(On the site click on the thumbnail of each item for some lovely illustrations)
Even this one
A tank named »Stalin : Birmingham, Sep 22, 1941
British Infantry Tank Mk.III »Valentine II«
16 t, 2pdr OQF 40mm L/52 gun

SUMMARY

MUNITIONS $4,651,582,000 NON-MUNITIONS 4,826,084,000 ---------------- Total 9,477,666,000 Note: the figure of $11 billion includes services as well as goods furnished.

The U.S. Government has never released detailed reports on what was sent in Lend-Lease, so Major Jordan's data, gleaned from the Russians' own manifests, is the only public record. More than one-third of Lend-Lease sent was illegal under the terms of the act which specifically prohibited "goods furnished for relief and rehabilitation purposes."
It should be kept in mind that Russia was an ally of Japan throughout the war, that it had been the ally of Hitler during the first two years of the war, that its division of Poland with Germany started the war, that it was an aggressive imperialist force that attacked Finland and subverted the Baltic states as well, that it had announced that it intended to take over the world and that most of the aid sent in 1945 was sent after Stalin's February speech in which he said he would continue the war but against the United States.
Franklin Roosevelt's alter ego and Lend-Lease administrator Harry L. Hopkins, a KGB agent, declared to Russia before a crowd at Madison Square Garden on June 22, 1942, that: "We are determined that nothing shall stop us from sharing with you all that we have." He was not joking.


CONTINUED ON NEXT POST

Lend Lease
to Russia From Major Jordan' Diaries

(NY: Harcourt, Brace, 1952)

Chapter Nine


ITEM Quantity Cost in Dollars ATOMIC MATERIALS
Beryllium metals 9,681 lbs. $ 10,874.
Cadmium alloys 72,535 lbs. 70,029.
Cadmium metals 834,989 lbs. 781,466.
Cobalt ore & concentrate 33,600 lbs. 49,782.
Cobalt metal & Cobalt bearing scrap 806,941 lbs. 1,190,774.
Uranium metal 2.2 lbs. ---
Aluminun tubes (for reactors) 13,766,472 lbs. 13,041,152.
Graphite, nat., flake, lump or chip 7,384,282 lbs. 812,437.
Beryllium salts & compounds 228 lbs. 775.
Cadmium oxide 2,100 lbs. 3,080.
Cadmium salts & compounds, n.e.s. * 2 lbs. 19.
Cadmium sulfate 2,170 lbs. 1,374.
Cadmium sulfide 16,823 lbs. 17,380.
Cobalt nitrate 51 lbs. 48.
Cobalt oxide 17,800 lbs. 34,832.
Cobalt salts & compounds, n.e.s. 11,475 lbs. 7,112.
Cobaltic and cobaltous sulfate 22 lbs. 25.
Deuterium oxide (heavy water) 1,100 grs. --- * n.e.s. stands for "not especially specified".

Page one ITEM Quantity Cost in Dollars Thorium salts and compounds 25,352 $ 32,570
Brass & bronze blanks 32,760,542 lbs. $ 6,270,740.
Uranium nitrate 500 lbs. ---
Brass & bronze plates & sheets 536,632,390 lbs. 99,376,514.
Uranium nitrate (U02) 220 lbs. ---
Brass & bronze pipes & tubes l6,642,267 lbs. 5,126,324.
Uranium oxide 500 lbs. --- Copper alloys 660 lbs. 396.
Uranium, urano-uranic oxide (U308) 200 lbs. ---
Insulated copper wire, n.e.s. 399,556,720 lbs. 97,637,534.
Copper maaufactures, n.e.s. --- 278,336.
METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES
Copper rods 2,875,916 lbs. 553,042.
Aluminum & alloys, ingots, slabs, etc. 366,73S,204 lbs. 53,884,473.
Copper wire, bare 28,235,738 lbs. 5,261,483.
Aluminum rods & bars 13,744,709 lbs. 3,285,014.
Copper wire, rubber-covered 16,521,612 lbs. 3,965,050.
Aluminum plates, sheets, strips 124,052,618 lbs. 45,408,111.
Copper wire, weather-proof 4,848,312 lbs. 1,261,789.
Aluminum foil 409,556 lbs. 205,231.
Copper munitions, excl. rotat. bands 1,598,723 lbs. 2,102,024.
Aluminum kitchen, hospital utensils 310 lbs. 1,428.
Copper refined ingots, bars, etc. 75,663,895 lbs. 9,041,122.
Aluminum powders & paste 219,736 lbs. 91,915.
Copper pipes & tubes 38,913,403 lbs. 22,728,592.
Aluminum contr. valves 980 lbs. 10,122.
Copper plates & sheets 26,432,417 lbs. 5,642,774.
Aluminum manufactures, n.e.s. --- 308,542.
Nickel-chrome electric resistance wire 1,603,104 lbs. 2,121,121.
Brass &c bronze ingots 10,214,064 lbs. 1,283,755.
Nickel ore, conc. & matts l55,604 lbs. 116,571.
Brass & bronze bars, rods, etc. 66,329,462 lbs. 12,502,080.
Nickel alloys & scrap 1,944,796 lbs. 812,3ll.
Brass & bronze pipe fittings 14,097 lbs. 30,931.
Nickel ingots, bars, rods, etc. 15,669,441 lbs. 6,560,7l9.
Brass & bronze valves, 4-in. & over 204,288 lbs. 189,623.
Nickel manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2,216,294.
Brass goods, plumbers 8,598 lbs. 5,828.
Tin & tin mfrs, tin foil 82,583 lbs. 44,353.
Brass or bronze wire l6,139,702 lbs. 3,734,169.
Tin ingots, pigs, bars, etc. 30,620 lbs. 16,079.
Brass wood scrcws l,2l8 gross 453.
Tin manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2.
Brass or bronze hardware --- 13,465.
Lead foil and tin foil 26,880 lbs. 15,546.
Brass & bronze die stocks, etc. 8,739 lbs. 9,180.
Lead, pigs & bars 801,234 lbs. l,913,769.
Brass & bronze munitions 21,824,376 lbs. 4,253,987.
Lead sheets & pipes ?4,555 lbs, 6,720.
Brass & bronze window strips 65,924 lbs. 28,567.
Lead, solder 378 Ibs. 76.
Brass & bronze, forgings 218 lbs. 249.
Lead, cable 1,681,081 lbs. 314,308.
Brass & bronze circles 933,110 lbs. 194,447.
Lead, plate or battery plate 1,122 lbs. 475.
Brass & bronze manufactures, n.e.s. --- 233,843.
Lead, shot l8l,506 lbs. 17,646.

Page two Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES, continued METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES, continued
Vises 4,398 $ 68,521. Lead, castings, circles, etc. 124,645 lbs. $ 40,569.
Lead manufactures, n.e.s. --- 105,421.
Automotive wrenches & parts --- 25,736.
Carbonyl iron powder 27,050 lbs. 42,436.
Wrenches & parts, excl. automotive --- 163,179.
Ferrochrome 7,820,3l3 lbs. 1,285,175.
Drills, etc., metal cutting, power-driven 7,822,2l6 8,863,820.
Ferromolybdenum 5,357,500 lbs. 3,210,590.
Drills, etc., excl. power-driven --- 9,062,215.
Ferrovanadium 1,074,190 lbs. 2,034,830.
Hand-operated taps, etc., metal-working
Ferrophosphorus l9,229 lbs. 710. machines 593,278 1,091,423.
Ferrosilicon 16,187,318 lbs. 941,985.
Hand-operated taps, etc., excL metal- working machines --- 4,224,303.
Ferrotungsten 3,027,188 lbs. 4,715,335.
Hand-operattd dies, etc., metal-work-
Ferro alloys, n.e.s. 88,900 lbs. 137,695.
Babbitt metal 604,569 lbs. 265,179. ing machines 35,538 32,346.
Quicksilver or mercury 10,590 lbs. 28,736.
Hand-operated dies, etc., excl. metal- Tungsten metal, etc. & alloy 279,449 lbs. 4,268,890.
working machines --- 258,766.
Cerite or cerium ore 2,651 lbs. 8,978.
Hand-operated metalcutting tools, n.e.s. --- 786,914.
Zirconium ore & concentrate 220 lbs. 2,420.
Pliers, pincers, nippers, etc. 3,463 doz. 33,700.
Cesium metals & alloys 30,299 lbs. 78,61l.
Drill pries, bit braces, etc. --- 217,288.
Chromium metal alloy scrap 23,924 lbs. 6,992.
Planes, chisels & other cutting tools --- 121,833.
Manganese metal & alloys 359,006 lbs. ?9,259.
Gauges for precision measure 38,348 1,562,938.
Molybdenum ore & concentrates 20,145,302 lbs. 10,841,501.
Mechanic' hand tools, n.e.s. --- 5,272,573.
Magnesium metal primary form 17,798,206 lbs. 3,640,716.
Tools with industrial diamonds 15 11l.
Molybdenum metal alloys, acrap 913,480 lbs. 466,602.
Tool grinders, emery wheel dressers 15,650 lbs. 85,106.
Tantalum metal & alloys 6,513 lbs. 136,665.
Hand tools & parts, n.e.a, --- 4,211,507.
Zirconium metal and alloy 193,450 lbs. 94,654.
Padlock' of iron, steel, brass & bronze 146 521.
Magnesium powder 66 lbs. 75. Door locke of iron, steel, brass
Magnesium metal, n.e.s. 983,467 lbs. 208,475. bronze 5 doz. 55.
Molybdenum wire 396,527 lbs. 1,030,833.
Wire bale ties 2,196,796 lbs. 103,900.
Ferromanganese 6,600 lbs. 1,272.
Welding rods & wire, excl. electric 8,088,498 lbs. 1,487,802.
Vanadium ore & concentrate 5,395 lbs. 33,835.
Wire on spools or coils, not cards 2,710,624 lbs. 270,830.
Metals & metal manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2,727,754.
Wire, twisted 1,585 lbs. 536.

Page three Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
Wire & manufactures, n.e.s. 23,236,266 lbs. $ 5,226,916.
Zinc slabs, plates, blocs, n.e.s. 40,966,658 lbs. $ 3,750,736.
Wire nails 32,789,488 lbs. 1,214,356.
Zinc wire 155,177 lbs. 38,767. Tacks 900,422 Ibs. 133,604.
Zinc manufactures, n.e.s. 202,324 lbs. 18,855.
Nails & staples, n.e.s. 8,105,218 lbs. 369,640.
Bauxite concentrate, incl. alumina 11 tons 657.
Bolts, machine screws, nuts, etc. 13,370,637 lbs. 1,373,695.
Plate, n.e.s. no alloy, excl. fabricated 17,951,792 lbs. 475,944.
Metal containers, filled, value 20% 68,650 lbs. 87,928.
Armor plate, no alloy, not fabricated 39,283,679 lbs. 1,585,548.
Metal containers, unfilled 2,095,541 lbs. 352,525.
Tin cans, finished or unfinished 667,603 lbs. 106,855.
Metal containers, unfilled, n.e.s. --- 616,795.
Metal file cases, not insulated 3,547 165,004.
Pipestocks, etc., hand operated & parts --- 233,275.
Metal File cases, insulated 13 2,860.
Screw plates, etc., hand-operated Metal furniture a parts, n.e.s. --- 49,360. parts --- 639,746.
Stoves, ranges, heaters, gas 84 9,296.
Machine knives, except metal cut 1,95l 41,218.
Cooking, heating equipment, domestic
Safety razors 237 doz. 2,383. n.e.s. --- ?32,893.
Safety razor blades 857 c. 1,290.
Parts, gas, kerosene, etc., stoves --- 16,617.
Cutlery, butchers & kitchens 34 doz. 500.
Radiators house heating 1,426 1,315.
Cutlery, knives, shears 3,648 39,343.
Oil burners & boilers industrial 126 59,605.
Cutlery & parts, n.e.s. --- 68,295.
Parts oil burners & boilers, domestic --- 406,107.
Power transmission chains 92,675 lbs. 76,989.
Cooking stoves, kerosene, excl. electric 27 1,332.
Chains, exc,. power transmission 13,971,287 lbs. 230,010.
Room & water heaters, kerosene 1,088 13,059.
Enamelware, table, household, hospi-
Stoves, room water heaters, gasoline 1,6ll 17,366. tal, etc. 209,365 lbs. 43,492.
Axes, broad & hand 12,608 doz. 22,769.
Boat propellers, blades 143,890 lbs. 8,042.
Hacksaw blades, power machines 16,063 gross 346,272.
Metals & alloys, n.e.s. 791,073 lbs. 141,894.
Hacksaw blades, excl. power machinery 32,172 gross 406,067.
Bauxite and other aluminum ores 56 tons 12,197.
Circular saws, excl. diamond 36,175 1,079,630.
Zinc photo engraving sheets 220 lbs. 57.
Circular saws, diamond 5,840 14,933.
Zinc sheets, n.e.s. & strips 2,000 lbs. 400.
Saws, steel band, pit, drag & mill 7,l33 35,910.
Zinc slabs etc., special high grade 4,159,512 lbs. 397,266.
Saws & parts, n.e.s. --- 1,551,889.
Zinc slabs, etc., high grade 26,757,974 lbs. 2,461,815.
Augers, bits, gimlets, etc. 1,723 doz. 20,004.
Zinc slabs, etc, intermediate grade 4,253,496 lbs. 368,244.
Files & rasps, under 7-in. 98,514 doz. 251,836.

 

There is another 15 pages of this however I don't have the time to edit.

See the rest here:http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/lend.html

CONTINUED - FOOD

FOODSTUFFS, continued Leather lining, ex. sh. & lamb 125 $ 94.
Milk & cream condensed 60,019,643 lbs. $ 9,027,160.
Leather & tanned skins, n.e. s. -- 491,068.
Milk & cream evaporated 8,942,706 lbs. 4,905,667.
Leather manufactures, n.e.s. -- 14,866.
Milk, dried whole skimmed 159,921,528 lbs. 30,804,571.
Luggage 82 858.
Butter 217,660,666 lbs. 103,673,250.
Fur manufactures, n.e.s. -- 4,75O.
Butter oil, & butter spreads 7,1ll,737 lbs. 4,168,845.
Oleo oil, edible, oleo stock, edible POODSTUFFS tallow, edible, lard, incl. neutral, Meat, canned, n.e.s. 72,000 lbs. 25,762.
oleomargarine 791,822,417 lbs. 124,387,146.
Poultry, live 6,300 lbs. 7,384.
Beef & veal, fresh or frozen 89,238 lbs. 13,786.
Cheese, processed blended spreads,
Beef & veal, pickled or cured 32,400 lbs. 6,383.
cheese, n.e.s. 79,926,896 lbs. 2,904,957.
Pork, pickled, salted, fresh,
Gelatin, edible 18,690 lbs. 16,653. frozen 529,814,747 lbs. 77,010,566. Meat extract & bouillon cubes 685 lbs. 1,185.
Ham & shoulders, cured 27,355,903 lbs. 8,794,783.
Other edible animal products, n.e.s. -- 222,593.
Bacon 70,531,571 lbs. 11,790,369.
infants' foods, malted milk, etc. 115,663 lbs. 21,022.
Cumber1and & Willshlre sides 40,000 lbs. 10,400.
Barley 477,30l bu. 707,672.
Sausage, bologna, etc., not canned 1,301,439 lbs. 477,075.
buckwheat 5,744 bu. 17,446.
Sausage ingredients, cured 573,031 lbs. 82,876.
Corn 30,429 bu. 194,230.
Meats, n.e.s. includ. smoked
Hominy & corn grits 1,645,02l bu. 45,600.
poultry 33,610,181 lbs. 16,130,915.
Kafir & milo 142 bu. 870.
Beef, canned 16,710,448 lbs. 4,735,745.
Oats 120,830 bu. 91,231.
Pork, canned 297,186,838 lbs. 123,784,465.
Oatmeal groats & rolled oats in Sausage, bologna, etc.,
canned 583,479,422 lbs. 204,150,308.
bulk, in packages 50,539,897 lbs. 2,220,748.
Chicken, canned 109,793 lbs. 46,879.
Cornstarch & corn flour 478,692 lbs. 36,663.
Other canned meats, excl.
chicken 2,405,696,825 lbs. 180,764,722.
Paddy or rough rice 9,089,681 lbs. 478,984.
Tushenka, canned 166,650,966 lbs. 70,335,231.
Milled rice, incl. browa rice,
Fish, canned 291,227 lbs. 41,882.
broken, etc. 126,387,202 1bs. 7,893,998.
Eggs dried 242,459,249 lbs. 280,800,963.
Rye 10,268 bu. 36,300.
Eggs in the shell 1,883 doz. 4,038.
Wheat 1,512,973 bu. 2,119,872.
Wheat floar, n.e.s. 26,929 bar. l47,509.
Page eightteen Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars FOODSTUFFS, continued FOODSTUFFS, continued Wheat flour, wholly of U.S. wheat 7,806,589 bar. $34,527,968.
Oranges, tangerines, & grapefruit 810 boxes $ 4,884.
Marcaroni, spaghetti, etc. 353,224 lbs. 53,103.
Pears, fresh or frozen 750 boxes 75.
Wheat cereal foods, ready to eat 171,734 lbs. 19,088.
Sugar 1,019,602,323 boxes 59,128,817.
Wheat cereal foods, to be cooked 1,496,043 lbs. 100,795.
Honey 29,693 lbs. 10,770.
Wheat semolina 57,869,814 lbs. 2,514,115.
Molasses 18 gals. 14.
Cereal foods, n.e.s. 15,613,037 lbs. 1,462,l45.
Glucose, dry 35,1l0 lbs. 3,686.
Grains & preparations, n.e.s. -- 4,199,246.
Coffee, roasted 1,055,552 lbs. 354,612.
Feeds, n.e.s. 11,053 tons 7l4,120.
Coffee extracts & substitutes 15,782 lbs. 4,9l9.
Beans, dry, ripe 492,521,079 lbs. 30,353,423.
Cbocolate candy, candy excl. choco-
Beans, seed 11,974,704 lbs. 2,353,676. late,
confections, n.e.s. 946,464 lbs. l96,927.
Peas, dry, ripe 59,116,953 lbs. 3,423,782.
Chocolate & cocoa 62,696 lbs. 16,121.
Peas, seed 16,324,197 lbs. 1,863,607.
Cinnamon, clovca, uaground spices,
Chickpeas 80,000 lbs. 6,557. pepper 596,861 lbs. l30,824.
Onions, fresh 661,932 lbs. 43,157.
Fruit juices 724,234 gals. 1,537,036.
Tomatoes, fresh 126 lbs. 12.
Canned fruits 92,454 lbs. 10,839.
Potatoes, fresh white 4,919,062 lbs. 227,601.
Fruit preparations, n.e.s. l2,060,382 lbs. 342,861.
Vegetables, fresh, n.e.s. 169,212.
Preserved fruits, jelles & jams 6,858,277 lbs. 392,757.
Canned vegetables & juices 33,339,138 lbs. 3,491,283.
Dried & evaporated fruits 4,372,578 lbs. 780,880.
Pickles, cucumber 136,021 lbs. 27,174.
Vegetables, dehydrated-other
Tomato table sauces 636 lbs. 133.
preparations 43,590,879 lbs. 28,79l,213.
Mayonnaise & salad-dressings,
Nuts & preparations, n.e.s. 6,056,758 lbs. l,0l5,846.
sauces 52,261 lbs. 10,333.
Biscuits & crackers 89 lbs. 30. Olives 71 lbs. 33.
Corn cereal food, ready to eat 83 lbs. 22.
Vinegar 128,890 gals. 112,459.
Farinaceous substances 30 lbs. 8.
Yeast l,590,587 lbs. 504,036.
Edible oils & cooking fats 235,115,716 lbs. 37,996,411.
Pineapples 26 boxes 2l1.
Soya flour, edible 103,772,226 lbs. 1,718,512.
Vanilla beans 730 boxes 7,102.
Wheat flour, wholly of U.S. wheat 2,050,6l3 cwt. 8,276,256.
Apples 3,653 boxes 15,423.
Beverages, syrup & flavors 286 gals. 433.
Lemmons & limes 595 boxes 4,969.
Banana, fresh 40,136 lbs. 2,571.

Page nineteen Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars FOODSTUFFS, continued OILS, RESINS, ETC., continued
Sunflower seed, oil, edible 11,685,500 lbs. $ 1,909,663.
Oil of citronella 1,000 lbs. $ 3,750. Tea 311,913 lbs. 229,716.
Oils, natural, essential & distilled, n.e.s 7,268 lbs. 46,767.
Coffee, green 6,598,709 lbs. 94l,969.
Oils, blended, etc. perfume flav. 9,600 lbs. 52,500.
Qusbracbo extract 32,033 lbs. 2,979.
SEEDS Crude drugs, herbs, etc, n.e.s. 153,198 lbs. 90,369.
Grass & field, n.e.s. 12,154,637 lbs. 2,085,546.
Fish oils, inedible 446,021 lbs. 95,594.
Timothy 4,l27,285 lbs. 396,567.
Oleic acid or red oil 1,400 lbs. 136.
Alfalfa 459,851 lbs. 190,945.
Hog grease & wool grease l45,387 lbs. 40,679.
Red clover 1,298,906 lbs. 372,281.
Animal greases, fats, inedible, n.e.s. 718,474 lbs. 93,968.
Clover, excl. red 1,094,148 lbs. 269,287.
Glue, animal, excl. casein 18,069 lbs. 1,650.
Red top 277,0l3 lbs. 123,282.
Cascien glue & inedible 2,905,592 lbs. 611,693.
Kentucky blue grass 475,438 lbs. 197,765.
Pine, oil pine, oil prod., etc. 92,080 lbs. 101,082.
Carrot 1,985,485 lbs. 2,030,066.
Tar & pitch of wood 500 lbs. 3l.
Vegetable, n.e.s. 11,651,470 lbs. 11,665,584.

 

But you all know what Stalin will say - they never arrived in Russia, the Russian veterans never saw any of these aircraft or vehicles, they never existed, the numbers are wrong, we didn't send anything, what we did send (which apparently we didn't actually send) was rubbish and second hand etc etc etc.
Just because all of our boys died getting fresh air to Russia means nothing to him.
Maybe we should just ignore him and he'll go away.
Kitty

PS. Love the 'eggs in the shell' numbers.

 

The U.S. Government has never released detailed reports on what was sent in Lend-Lease, so Major Jordan's data, gleaned from the Russians' own manifests, is the only public record.

 

Please find the lend lease sites I have in my bookmarks.

If they do not work, I will post the open list for perusal. Please let me know.

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

Lend Lease

Engines of the Red Army in WW2 - Routes Overview

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/docume...pages_1-12.pdf

Lend-Lease

Engines of the Red Army in WW2 - Numbers

 

To add a small arms figure to the listings of Lend-Lease equipment.

From Charles Pate's U.S. Handguns of WWII: The Secondary Pistols and Revolvers.

Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911/11A1

British Empire - 40,000
Canada - 1,500
China - 2,200
France - 20,000
USSR - 13,000


The following item is not relevant to the thread concerning USSR.

Revolver, Smith & Wesson, Caliber .38-200

British Empire - 650,500
Canada - 13,600

JT

 

I came across this latest analysis of Allied lend lease versus Russian production which is another interesting slant when seen in percentages.

Lend-Lease as a Function of the Soviet War Economy

 

Franklin Roosevelt's alter ego and Lend-Lease administrator Harry L. Hopkins, a KGB agent, ...

From Spidge's 06-Apr-06 post, surely someone jests...

 

From Spidge's 06-Apr-06 post, surely someone jests...

I didn't have an opinion on the actaul accusation however there seems to be quite a lot of it on the net.

 

I see where you got this, from this beautiful Engines of the Red Army in WW2 site, from the links and sources section.

The actual source is http://www.geocities.com/mark_willey/lend.html and I had already seen it elsewhere in a place I did not like*. If you backtrack a bit you'll reach http://www.geocities.com/mark_willey/

A bit tendentious, to say the least, even Gen. Marshall of the Marshall plan was a communist according to this guy...




* Aha! Found it! How Wars Are MADE: From Major Jordan's Diaries - Chapter 1 Now see backtrack again and see what SweetLiberty means...

How Wars Are Made | Index
Issues Index
http://www.sweetliberty.org/

That's right, we're in pure Indian Country...
:wow:


If you accept that Harry Hopkins accusation from people like these, prepare to swallow a lot more than you bargained for :icon-mrgreenbandit:

 

If you accept that Harry Hopkins accusation from people like these, prepare to swallow a lot more than you bargained for :icon-mrgreenbandit:

Hi Za,

Not swallowing it, just stating that there is alot of it on the net. As with many "stories" they tend to result from one site or one opinion.

People being sympathetic to a cause can often be construed as something that it is not.

 

Sorry, 'swallow' was poor word choice of mine. In short I meant that I don't find these particular sources very credible

 

Sorry, 'swallow' was poor word choice of mine. In short I meant that I don't find these particular sources very credible

There are thousands of these however revealing them and the reasons for their "error" should be discussed to show to others that you cannot believe everything you read.

The denial pages that flood the internet are a great example.

 

By the way, this may have been mentioned in the past here, but I found Soviet War Production an interesting article.

 

By the way, this may have been mentioned in the past here, but I found Soviet War Production an interesting article.

Another part to the link I placed in post #29.