Saved from the dustbin, but where do I start?

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by High Wood, Dec 17, 2020.

  1. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    Tim,

    no transcription error, it clearly says, "Mrs Sharp", on the back of the photograph. The mistake, if there is one, was made by whoever annotated the photograph.

    (Apologies, I take that back, as having re-read it, I can see that I have used both spellings).

    Simon.
     
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  2. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Methinks you're on the right track. In Gus's link at #10 there is a newspaper article which says Richard Sharp - tough Yorkshireman.

    Tim
     
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  3. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    You've misunderstood me. Photo says Mrs Sharp but you've put Mrs Sharpe (Aunt Madge) in #1. Although your text makes clear it's Mrs Sharp.

    Tim
     
  4. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    Tim,

    I corrected my reply six minutes ago. I used both spellings in the original post.

    Simon.
     
  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    As per my #19, this is Elmhurst House - I reckon brickwork looks the same?
    Elmhurst.jpg
     
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  6. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    I don't think the death that Gus's posted, #10, is correct (sorry Gus) , I think it is:

    Index to Marine Deaths 1946 - 1950
    Marine deaths.jpg
    His Probate:
    Probate.jpg
     
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  7. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    I am a little confused as to why the family tree states Robert E Sharp, D.F.C. and the photograph states, "Jimmy", D.F.C, and Bar. Jimmy may have been a nickname, but there were two people called James Sharp who were awarded the D.F.C.; 43374 Flt. Lt. James Leonard Sharp, 214 Squadron, and 414266 P/O James Gordon Sharp, 460 Squadron.
     
  8. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    BBC Archives description from BBC website:
    What's in the BBC Archives?
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  9. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    I haven't checked out the tree so can't really comment, it could be a nickname, on the other hand, whilst I am not suggesting that this tree is wrong, I have seen many that contain errors, so only ever take them as a guide. There are however many names that do tie up with the photo so reckon it is the basis for further research.
     
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  10. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Robert Edward Sharp DFC, brothers John and Andrew missing, also mentions Elmhurst:
    Sharp.jpg
     
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  11. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Possibilities that occur to me are that Robert is not in the photo and that Jimmy is possibly a cousin. He could be a Sharp, if the son of Harold's brother, a Leighton, if the son of Madge's brother or an unknown, if the son of her sister. That's if Harold and Madge had brothers and sisters. The fact that whoever annotated the photo with 'Aunt Madge' suggests to me that the photo has originally come from another line of the family.

    What an interesting thread.

    Tim
     
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  12. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    I agree and have deleted the ref.

    Gus
     
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  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    1911 England Census
    Name: Pichard Lighton Sharp
    [Richard Leighton Sharp]
    Age in 1911: 7
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
    Relation to Head: Son
    Gender: Male
    Birth Place: Conisbro, Yorkshire, England
    Civil Parish: Conisbrough
    Search Photos: Search for 'Conisbrough' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
    County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
    Country: England
    Street Address: Metton Villa Conisbro Nr Rotherham
    Occupation: School
    Registration District: Doncaster
    Registration District Number: 512
    Sub-registration District: Barnbrough
    ED, institution, or vessel: 03
    Piece: 28159
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Harold Henry Sharp 35
    Margaret Isabel Sharp 35
    Pichard Lighton Sharp 7
    David Harold Sharp 5
    Charles Geoffery Sharp 4
    Margaret Elizabeth Sharp 1

    His siblings names may fit some of those you are looking for

    Could Margaret be the Madge??
    Could Charles Geoffrey be the Geoff??

    TD

    Seems he has some contacts - Richard Leighton Sharp found in 25 trees (Ancestry ones that is)
     
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  14. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    A big thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread, it is appreciated, and it has shown, yet again, how this wonderful forum can come together and solve a problem.

    I now need to find a way of restoring the photograph to a condition that will survive into the future. Removing the creases would be good start.

    It would also be good to alert the person with the Sharp family tree on Ancestry of the existence of the thread. I do not currently have an Ancestry subscription, so could someone who does, please send them a message?

    Many thanks,

    Simon
     
  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    From further searching

    Robert Edward Sharp DFC
    1913–2000
    BIRTH 7 AUG 1913 • Conisborough, Yorkshire, England
    DEATH 6 FEB 2000 • North Dorset, Dorset, England

    John Francis Sharp F/Lt
    1915–1941
    BIRTH 1915 • Doncaster, Yorkshire West Riding, England
    DEATH 3 JUL 1941 • Germany

    Andrew Fanshawe Sharp P/Off
    1920–1941
    BIRTH DEC 1920 • Conisborough, Yorkshire
    DEATH 12 JUN 1941

    From the tree these appear to be the RAF ones

    Oooops just found this one
    Charles Geoffery Sharp Sq/Ldr
    1907–2001
    BIRTH 28 JAN 1907 • Doncaster, Yorkshire
    DEATH 2001 • York, Yorkshire, England



    Trouble is with 25 trees which one or ones do you contact

    TD

    Richard - 18 trees
    David Harold - 27 trees
    Charles Geoffrey - 17 trees
    John Francis - 21 trees
    Stephen - 15 trees
    Andrew - 18 trees
    Margaret - 15 trees
     
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  16. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Simon well done for posting the photo
    It just shows us ,write on the back of your photos the names and place
    We all have photos (well I do) like this from many years ago and clueless who the people are

    regards
    Clive
     
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  17. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Jimmy riddle solved!!!
    Sharp 2.jpg
    Sharp.jpg

    QED?
     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery



    Panel from Runnymede
    PILOT OFFICER ANDREW FANSHAWE SHARP
    Service Number: 88396
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    206 Sqdn.

    Date of Death
    Died 12 June 1941

    Age 20 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

    Panel 34.

    United Kingdom


    • Country of Service United Kingdom
    • Additional Info Son of Harold Henry Sharpe, and of Margaret Isabel Sharpe, of Filey, Yorkshire.

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  19. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    :D:D:D:D

    Now I need to go for one !!

    TD
     
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  20. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Simon - perhaps if you edit the thread title to add Richard Leighton Sharp and add a few tags (siblings and parents names etc) to it then others may well pick it up

    TD


    Update:
    I have sent a message to one of the tree creators asking that details of this thread be passed on to others who, if that person isnt, may be more directly descended from the Sharp family, or at least the details contained within this thread are spread across the Sharp trees
     
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