Does anyone know where or how to find information on a military grave/burial from between ww1 & ww2 ? I have someone who died 1922 in Baghdad Iraq. Cwgc seems to focus only on the two wars and not in the middle. Samuel Charles Boyd. Born 1883 died 28 July 1922 Baghdad Iraq. East Yorkshire regiment 1st battalion in ww1. Regimental number 7541 he moved to 4334042 east Yorkshire regiment 2nd battalion after ww1. I have a fair bit of information on him and details from his effects document but no idea where his grave might be. At a guess Baghdad Military cemetery? Does anyone know where to look for further information?
FMP (Find My Past) might be good as I believe they hold files for deaths overseas Also - is this him? British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: Samuel Boyd Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1883 Birth Place: Cleator Moor, Cumberland Age: 31 Document Year: 1914 Regimental Number: 8600 Regiment Name: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery) Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 5 Other Records: Search for 'Samuel Boyd' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Samuel Boyd Self (Head) Margaret Wife TD
No i'm afraid that's not him. I have details from Find my past and Ancestry. They do not give a clue as to where he is buried other than Baghdad. I believe the 2nd Battalion East Yorkshire Regiment were there in 1922 dealing with the Iraqi uprising.
I assume as its just a year outside CWGC remit its mod territory. This team at the Mod seem to deal with all war deaths since 1914 & although they may not search for you, may give you advice. MOD War Detectives – the Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre Commemorations team - who we are As you say he may have been buried in one of the CWGC Bagdad Military Cemeteries, and they do take responsibility for some non-world war burials in their cemeteries, maybe worth asking CWGC. I assume they have a list of those they are responsible for, but not listed on their website. CWGC in Iraq – our history and the future | CWGC Blog Historic collection of the East Yorkshire Regiment is now here: Home York Army Museum - York Army Museum Maybe there was a regimental news letter or similar that helps.
British Light Infantry Regiments & National Service 2nd Battalion 1919 India 1920 Iraq 6 Div 1922 Turkey Army of Occupation 1923 England: Lichfield TD regimental collection, incl war diaries, papers, photographs and artefacts | The National Archives regimental collection, incl war diaries, papers, photographs and artefacts This record is held by Wilberforce House and Georgian Houses Description: regimental collection, incl war diaries, papers, photographs and artefacts Date: 19th cent-20th cent Held by: Wilberforce House and Georgian Houses, not available at The National Archives NRA catalogue reference: NRA 42327 East Yorks Regt
Hi terrace, Did you note on FMP service no 7541 is shown as Frank Boyd ? Birth year 1884 Birth town Sheffield Regt Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) Attestation date 28 Nov 1899. Graham.
That's because before 1920 the numbering system was Regimental. The same numbers would be duplicated throughout the army. In 1920 the Army Numbering system was introduced so each soldier had his own number.
If he was Anglican the Anglican Church of Baghdad might well have been involved in his burial and have kept a record. The Canon reported directly to the Archbishop of Canterbury (the last one was ordered home in 2014 on his orders) and Lambeth Palace ought to have copies of the church records or at least know the whereabouts of such
CWCG came up trumps with this information. Thank you for the advice everyone. Rank Private Initials S Surname BOYD Unit 2nd Bn. Regiment East Yorkshire Regiment Service No. 4334042 Age 40 Date of Death 28 July 1922 Commemoration MA'ASKER AL RASCHID R.A.F. CEMETERY Iraq Plot 3 Row C Grave 12
Hi Terrac, I came across this forum by chance. In case you have not checked out my website (www.stevebusterjohnson.com) re the Ma 'Asker Al Raschid RAF Cemetery (formerly Hinaidi RAF Peace Cemetery), here is a photograph of the cemetery taken in 1929, viewed from the south-east corner of Plot 3. I have marked on it the headstone of Private Samuel Bond. For anyone interested, a lot of work has been going on behind the scenes in the past two years in trying to redress the sorry state of the abandoned cemetery. With the cooperation of the MoD, CWGC and the British Embassy in Baghdad (especial thanks to the Defence Attache, Brigadier Adam McRae), funds have been secured for the re-building of the cemetery wall and a basic maintenance program to be set up, pending allocation of funds by the MoD for the long-term project of restoring the 299 British graves (Army, Navy, Air Force personnel as well as a few civilian contractors). If you need more details on the cemetery, please contact me via my website. Steve
Very interesting Steve, and congratulations on what you have documented about this Baghdad cemetery. I have posted something about this cemetery on the Great War Forum which I hope will be allowed to remain, although strictly speaking it is outside the Great War Forum time frame. I will also try and cross reference your post on another WW2 Talk thread Cheers Maureen
Hi Maureen, Though the burials at Ma'Asker Al Raschid RAF Cemetery were all 'between the wars' many of the British servicemen buried there were decorated WW1 veterans (both Army and Air Force), so the GWF in my opinion should make allowance for this in recognising the cemetery's WW1 relevance. I'll have a look at your post and maybe add a comment - my name on the forum is Starlight. Cheers Steve