These 2 bits relate to him, the NW Frontier medal role and Tank Corps enlistment - on the remarks column of the 2nd document it has "RE/RAOCorps 30/9/39" so I think he had left the 15/19th by the time of the Battle
Wow, I never met my grandad (he passed before i was born) and I have very little to go off but those two docs you’ve just sent have put a lump in my throat. So I’m not sure what a lot of the hand written stuff means but I want to find out about his 15/19th career and what looks like his RA career Waiting on my dad calling me back but he’s getting on himself and wouldn’t be 100% sure on details Thank you so much
Hello again Daz....He entered the Army Reserve in December 1931 and was discharged in 1937...Does the comment on the second document indicate Re-Enlisted...and would RAO Corps not be Royal Army Ordnance Corps ? If it's RA, what does the 'O' indicate ? Does it state 'Docs to Portsmouth 4/12/39 ? Would this have been the RAOC Depot at Hilsea ? More questions than answers...Service records really are the only answer here...
Hi rich, yeah I’m not sure tbh, I have plenty of questions and filling out the service request form as we speak Did he not enlist in July 1925 then?
I should think he did join in 1925 and had done six years with the colours and six with the reserve. Regiments and Corps varied on the split and he was overseas when his service ended, from the look of it). This brought him to 1937 and his discharge. He was then free to re-enlist in September 1939 which he did straight away. He'd have been horsed cavalry in 1931 and 15/19H had converted to armour in his absence so re-joining his old regiment may not have been his first choice.
Looks like you nailed it... looks like he was posted out of 15/19 around the time the regiment entrained at York station on 29/9/1939 and then later embarked from Avonmouth for France on October 2, 1940 aboard the SS The Duke of Lancaster.
I’m amazed how you guys know all that, im also very very grateful So was he RA from 29/9/39 until 1944?
My reading is enlisted 27/7/25 for 6 years and a further 6 in reserve - when he enlisted he was 8th Hussars, 3/2/28 he transferred to the 15/19th and was with them until 29/12/31 when he moved to the reserve - he stayed on the reserve until 26/7/37 - I think he was Re-Engaged (I think that's what the RE is) so recalled for service 30/9/39 into the Royal Army Ordnance Corps, I think the other line is basically just admin that his records were sent from his old unit to his new unit (RAOC) 4/12/39. I don't think anything on these who him as Royal Artillery - its possible he moved from RAOC to RA but as the document shown relates to him joining serving and leaving the armoured side of thing they may not have been interested in his movements after he left for the RAOC. Alistair
Daz, once you have his service records and know definitively what unit he served with you can look into getting the war diaries for that unit. The WDs will give you an idea of what the unit and he were doing on a daily basis for the 39/40 period. I'm sure some members will be able to help out with the WDs...
Jan, I'm really sorry that I didn't see your request last August. Photobucket have made a real mess of many of these threads. I've gone back through and re-loaded the photographs. I don't have originals of any of them, but hope they'll be clear enough for your purposes. Rich.
I think another 15/17th Hussar who would have been there, I think he joined them 15/5/38 and later he moved on to the CMP
Thanks for this. I did not find any mention of him in 15/19 regimental journals, WDs or regimental histories. Found a few ancestry records for his early life and his Dad's (Thomas) Descriptive Report on Enlistment, WW1. Do you have any records that connect him to 15/19 or a specific Troop or Squadron?
Noticed this on Tpr Amoss in the 1999 15/19 Regimental Association Journal 7899247 Tpr J.R.J. Amoss 9 November 1998 Served l5/19tH 1939-46, also 3RTR. Mr C Hunter represented the Regimental Association at the funeral service on 16 November 1998.
I'm really just going on the RTR enlistment book entry which seems to have him initially 13/18th, moving to 15/19th 15/8/38 and then nothing until he moves to the Military Police in 1944
Most photos of this post are lost. These are the 6 members who are buried at Adegem War Cemetery. I'd like to know more details about these guys. And where have they been temporary buried? BRACE, EUSTACE FRANK FEILDEN (age 20). United Kingdom. Son of Colonel H. F. Brace (D.S.O., M.C.). Second Lieutenant (95557). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 1. *service records requested* BRACE, EUSTACE FRANK FEILDEN | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem COOKE, VICTOR ALEXANDER (age 19). United Kingdom. Trooper (321305). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 2. *service records requested* CUNNINGHAM, ALEXANDER MCQUEEN (age 20). Trooper (321810). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 3. *service records requested* FALLA, JOHN (age 24). United Kingdom. Guardsman (2613320). Grenadier Guards, 3rd Bn. Plot 6, Row AB, Grave 8. *service records requested* LONG, BERTRAM HENRY (age 30). United Kingdom. Lance Serjeant (545035). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 4. *service records requested* MURPHY, LESLIE JOHN (age 20). United Kingdom. Trooper (321278). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 5. *service records requested* MUIR, JAMES ARTHUR (age 23). Trooper (555527). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 6. *service records requested*
MAY 18, 1940: BRACE, EUSTACE FRANK FEILDEN (age 20). United Kingdom. Son of Colonel H. F. Brace (D.S.O., M.C.). Second Lieutenant (95557). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Died in Belgium during the battle of Asse. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 1. *details/ service records requested* Full profile: BRACE, EUSTACE FRANK FEILDEN | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem View attachment 269358 COOKE, VICTOR ALEXANDER (age 19). United Kingdom. Trooper (321305). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Died in Belgium during the battle of Asse. Buried in a collective grave in this cemetery. Possibly their armoured vehicle suffered a direct hit. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 2. *details/ service records requested* Full profile: COOKE, VICTOR ALEXANDER | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem View attachment 269359 CUNNINGHAM, ALEXANDER MCQUEEN (age 20). Trooper (321810). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Died in Belgium during the battle of Asse. Buried in a collective grave in this cemetery. Possibly their armoured vehicle suffered a direct hit. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 3. *details/ service records requested* Full profile: CUNNINGHAM, ALEXANDER MCQUEEN | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem View attachment 269360 LONG, BERTRAM HENRY (age 30). United Kingdom. Lance Serjeant (545035). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Died in Belgium during the battle of Asse. Buried in a collective grave in this cemetery. Possibly their armoured vehicle suffered a direct hit. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 4. *details/ service records requested* Full profile: LONG, BERTRAM HENRY | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem View attachment 269362 MURPHY, LESLIE JOHN (age 20). United Kingdom. Trooper (321278). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Died in Belgium during the battle of Asse. Buried in a collective grave in this cemetery. Possibly their armoured vehicle suffered a direct hit. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 5. *details/ service records requested* Full profile: MURPHY, LESLIE JOHN | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem View attachment 269363 MUIR, JAMES ARTHUR (age 23). Trooper (555527). Royal Armoured Corps, 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. Died in Belgium during the battle of Asse. Plot 12, Row F, Grave 6. *details/ service records requested* Full profile: MUIR, JAMES ARTHUR | Canadian War Cemetery, Adegem View attachment 269364
Thanks for posting the pictures of the grave stones of these 15/19 men. New PB limits impacted previous image postings. Actually none of these chaps were KIA within Assche but killed in action in nearby villages and hamlets before the fighting in Assche began. Long, Murphy and Muir were KIA near Brusseghem. Brace, Cook and Cunningham were KIA near Vijlst. If you are able to acquire any of their service records perhaps you could post them. Steve