Clive Taylor CPO j101990 RN and NZN

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  1. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    I have the medals and service record upto 1941

    He was born 1/3/1905 but cannot find death certificate as I want to get his records from 1941-46

    He was attached NZN 1935-38

    Can anyone help?

    Regards

    James
     
  2. wightspirit

    wightspirit Junior Member

  3. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Thanks but that’s his record from 1927-41 which I already have

    His 1941-46 record is in the P&V records held by the mod and needs a death certificate to get released and £30 payable to the RN archivist

    Regards

    James
     
  4. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Sorry, can find his birth, baptism and census details but no death - could he have emigrated?
     
  5. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    That’s what I’m thinking, he was attached NZN and there was a Clive Taylor born 1905 died 1990 Australia

    Regards

    James
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Clive Taylor
    Gender: Male
    Marital status: Single
    Birth Date: 1 Mar 1905
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 45 Outram Road
    Residence Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
    Occupation: Royal Navy
    Schedule Number: 51
    Sub Schedule Number: 1
    Enumeration District: EBJG
    Registration district: 90/2
    Household Members:
    Name
    Clive Taylor
    Cecelia Marsh

    For information:
    Name: Cecelia Marsh
    Gender: Female
    Marital status: Single
    Birth Date: 18 Apr 1906
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 45 Outram Road
    Residence Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
    Occupation: Book - keeper & accounts clerk


    UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
    Name: Clive Taylor
    Gender: Male
    Birth Date: 1 Mar 1905
    Birth Place: Redditch, Worcestershire
    First Service Date: 1 Mar 1929
    First Ship Served On: Argus
    Last Service Date: 5 Apr 1941
    Last Ship Served On: Victory 3 (Windsor)
    Service Number: J. 101990

    Name: Clive Taylor
    Gender: Male
    Birth Date: 1 Mar 1905
    Birth Place: Redditch, Worcester
    First Service Date: 20 Apr 1921
    First Ship Served On: Ganges
    Last Service Date: 27 Jan 1927
    Last Ship Served On: Vernon
    Service Number: J101990

    From a family tree but unfortunately has no death details - still looking
    Name Clive Taylor
    Father Clive Taylor
    Mother Caroline Ann Ladbury
    Birth 04/1905 Redditch Worcestershire England
    Residence 02 Apr 1911 Redditch Worcestershire England

    TD
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Think this might be the man you mention but not the man you are after

    Clive Thomas Taylor
    Birth: 1905
    Death: 1990 - Bundaberg, Queensland, Australia
    Marriage: 1930 - Queensland, Australia
    Spouse: Eva Lillian Turner

    The detail shows:
    Birth - 1905 • Durham, England

    Your man was born in Redditch, Worcs

    TD
     
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  8. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Thanks TD
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I dont seem to be able to find a death for him either - he was in the RN and also it seems the NZN - so I assume there is a chance that if he emigrated to NZ then he may not have travelled throught the normal shipping routes and hence his 'trail' will be cold. Perhaps ask [not sure how you find out except look for NZ in their username] a member who is NZ based and has access to genealogical databases in NZ, mine doesnt quite stretch that far I'm afraid.

    Maybe edit the thread title to add possible NZ connection

    TD
     
  10. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Cheers TD thought I was going mad
     
  11. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Found a Clive Taylor died New Zealand 1985 but cannot access the record via ancestry as I need worldwide
    This would tie in with his NZN service
    Can any member help
     
  12. Kiwi REd One

    Kiwi REd One Junior Member

    We have Ancestry for NZ stuff so I will check out the name when I get a moment this weekend. Not sure if its relevant to CPO Taylor's service since he was attached from 1935 to 1938 but the New Zealand Division of the Royal Navy only became the Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) from 1 October 1941.
     
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  13. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    I think he died in New Zealand so I need a death certificate to release his Royal Naval Record’s which may shed light also on his New Zealand division of the Royal Navy

    Thank you in advance of any help you can give

    Regards

    James
     
  14. Kiwi REd One

    Kiwi REd One Junior Member

    Hello James

    Sorry had some unexpected issues to deal with recently so but we have now had a look on line for NZ stuff but couldn't come up with anything other than the person who died in Australia in 1990 mentioned by TD which is not the person you are after.

    Can you give some details for the 1985 NZ record that you found but can't access and I will look into it for you.

    Cheers
     
  15. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    NZ has a searchable BMD site, which to be different they call BDM. Funny, as I always thought death came after marriage :)

    Death Search

    Only 7 with Clive as a forename when I extended the search to 2018, but none which fit the bill.

    As he was born in 1905, the record should be available:
    You can search fordeath records if:

    • the death occurred at least 50 years ago, or
    • the deceased's date of birth was at least 80 years ago.
     
  16. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    It’s this record

    It’s a long shot I know
     

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  17. Blutto

    Blutto Banned

    Hahaha....
     
  18. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Blutto

    Have searched the bdm site to no avail

    Thanks for your help with the link
     
  19. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    All I have managed to find his death certificate on Scotland people

    Thanks for all your assistance
     

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