R.A.M.C. service records: please help deciphering abbreviations, thank you

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  1. Moriarty24

    Moriarty24 Member

    Hello

    Grateful for any help deciphering some R.A.M.C. service records (forms B102 & B200d) please.

    The limited story is the man concerned was captured in Burma and managed to escape by hiding in the jungle (nfi). He was awarded the Burma Star (but didn't apply for any medals awarded) and the records show him in Deolali, India, yet his time in Burma isn't apparent.

    Some abbreviations have been identified from various posts in this forum; I've tried searching for others such as CCS 18 to no avail; overall I remain confuddled about what happened and when :(

    Other questions include:
    - The records show 'medical classification' as Grade III B4 at enlistment; is this the same as 'medical category' shown on formB102 as A4 etc
    - does anyone recall the name of a film shown in cinemas circa 1961 about Burma in WWII

    Apologies for the redactions but the records don't belong to me; if it helps I can pm his name & service number. Any help compiling his story will be very much appreciated, thank you.
    B102 IMG_3071.jpg B102 IMG_3072.jpg B200d IMG_3064 1.jpg B200d IMG_3065 2.jpg B200d IMG_3066 3.jpg
    thanks again
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Casualty Clearing Station - Wikipedia = CCS


    Check out for the film - List of World War II films (1950–1989) - Wikipedia

    Maybe - The Long and the Short and the Tall (film) - Wikipedia
    The Long and the Short and the Tall (released as Jungle Fighters in the USA and Canada) is a 1961 British war film directed by Leslie Norman, which stars Richard Todd, Richard Harris, Laurence Harvey, David McCallum and Ronald Fraser. The film, which is based on a 1959 play with the same name, by Willis Hall, takes place in 1942 during the Malayan Campaign.

    TD

    May be an idea to contact the RAMC as I believe they will have a museum etc that may help locate No 18 CCS for example
     
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  3. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    The B102 is the Index Card for the B103 which usually has more detail. If you have B103 could you attach them please - suitably anonymised.

    The key to your “Burma” query may be to discover the location of 18 Indian Casualty Clearing Station in 1944 - by its nature it was likely close to the fighting area - which would likely be an area of eligibility for the Burma Star. FYI Family can still apply for his Campaign medals.

    This topic may help you understand X list acronym.

    X lists (Service Records)

    X(iii) is the usual POW or MIA reference but I can’t see it on the B 102 and I would expect to see a corresponding entry on his statement of services.

    My father’s record has him MIA, then confirmed POW(albeit in 8th Army).

    He may appear on FMP official casualty lists as MIA?

    Good Luck

    Steve
     
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  4. hutt

    hutt Member

    Just picking up on the reference to 18CCS. There appear to be 3 diaries at Kew that may be of interest
    WO177/653 April 44 - September 45
    WO222/696 October 43 - June 45
    WO177/652 Jan 40 March 44
     
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  5. Moriarty24

    Moriarty24 Member

    Thanks for the suggestion & the film list, I’ll get in touch with them because searching for it isn’t productive. Can you suggest what is written in the first column of the 2nd document, 6 rows down, adjacent to 18 CCS please? It looks like 51 (i) GH which I thought might refer to Indian? General Hospital. Given his occupation, I’m also wondering if this type of entry is him being admitted to hospital or a posting?
     
  6. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    It’s an X (ii) posting so an evacuation from his unit to 51 Indian General Hospital on health grounds (for 3 months).

    Steve
     
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  7. Moriarty24

    Moriarty24 Member

    Thanks Steve, apart from the front cover with his name & address, I’ve posted all that was sent by Glasgow when his records were applied for. No trace of a form B 103 - should I contact them? I was hoping someone might spot something in the records to indicate he was missing eg 2nd document middle column mentions x list (but no number indicator) and 5 (1) n.s.u.? in 1945. Have checked FMP & found nothing
     
  8. Moriarty24

    Moriarty24 Member

    Ok, that’s what confused me. Other posters mention records showing ‘transferred in’ or ‘discharged’ because his records don’t and he was a N.O. (Nursing Orderly?) thought it meant he was posted to that place
     
  9. Moriarty24

    Moriarty24 Member

    Great, thanks! May I ask how you found the references please?
     
  10. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    They’ll be available via U.K. National Archives Discovery Search Engine. I haven’t looked but beware 18 CCS may not be the same as 18 (I) CCS.

    BBC - WW2 People's War - The Middle East

    Steve
     
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  11. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    I would contact Glasgow. They may have been mislaid by the clerk dealing with the enquiry. On the other hand they may have been lost sometime over the past 70 odd years.

    Your NSU is actually MSU - Mobile Surgical Unit as in last entry in 1st column B102.

    Steve
     
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