Corporal T Young 15824 POW Stalag XXA

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  1. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Needing some help with a family postcard from Stalag XXA which recently came to light.
    It was sent to my grandfather (Douglas Young) by a Corporal T (presumably Thomas) Young, Army number 15824. I don't know which man in the photograph is T Young. But I reckon he must be a relative.
    The army number seems to indicate he was enlisted into the RASC. I think this must have been before WW2 given his relatively low number (but I could be wrong). The postmark on the rear is, I think, July 1942.
    Can any members shed any further light on any of this?
    Thanks
    Ian
    [Edit - Just discovered the number could be a POW number rather than an army number]
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  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Ian

    Looking through the Ancestry database I cannot find a T Young with that number as either a service number or a POW number ????
    TD
     
  3. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    There is a newspaper article in the Dundee Courier 23rd Septemebr 1944. It relates to Cpl T Young captured at St Valery in 1940 and held in Stalag XX A. He was repatriated via Sweden in 1944. He was attached to HQ Medical services of the 51st highland Division.

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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    If he was repatriated then that could be the reason he does not appear on the database which was done, I think, towards the end of 1944

    Thanks Guy

    TD
     
  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Here he is:

    WO 392/1 - Prisoners of War
    Camp No: 20A
    POW No: 15824
    Name: Young T
    Rank: Cpl
    Army No:7344346
    Regt: RAMC
    RO No: 30

    Casualty list 258 Dated 18 July 1940
    France
    Missing
    Royal Army Medical Corps
    7344346 Young Cpl TP, Date of casualty 25.6.40

    Hope that's of use.
     
  6. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    You chaps are absolutely brilliant!
    Thanks for all this information, as a result of which I've managed to identify not only who this is but what relation he is.
    Turns out my grandfather had a younger brother, Thomas Philip Dryden Young, born 1915 in Dundee. I'm not sure my father even knew this. His father had a lot of step brothers and sisters (his father having been married twice). We knew he had a fullblood sister but not about this brother.
    Still don't know which man he is in the photo but we're working on it.
    Many, many thanks again to all who've helped.
    Cheers
    Ian
     
  7. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Thomas was born in the St. Peter's district in 1915 and married an Elizabeth McCord in the St. Andrews (Dundee) district and died 1978 Dundee.

    There was a Thomas Young born in the St. Andrews district 1935, died 1994. Think he may have married Robina Armstrong in Dundee East 1958 and a Thomas Armstrong Young was born Dundee West in 1959.

    All to be found at the Scotlandspeople website. Cheers Maria
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    There may (or may not) be something of interest in:

    British army PoWs repatriated to UK | The National Archives
    Reference: WO 365/116
    Description:
    British army PoWs repatriated to UK
    Date: 1943-1944
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Former reference in its original department 85/118
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

    There may be other files
    TD
     
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  9. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Thanks, Maria. I've now got this from Scotlandspeople too (as far as it will let me online). Interesting, the 1935 marriage was an "irregular" - by declaration in front of two witnesses. Such marriages were banned in Scotland after 1940, replaced by civil, Registry Office marriages.
    Cheers
    Ian
     
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  10. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Thanks Guy
    Looks like Colonel Robertson is Colonel William Albert Robertson, CBE, MC, TD, ADMS of the 51st Highland Division. Died in captivity on 26 March 1942 and buried in Poland. Originally from Broughty Ferry near Dundee.
     
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  11. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Thanks again, Tony.

    Looks like his army number was actually 7344364. There was a correction in Casualty List 300 (WO 417/17).
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    Cheers
    Ian
     
  12. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Now had a reply from the ICRC. Confirms he was HQ 51st Division RAMC, captured at St Valery on 12 June 1940. Was in Stalag XXA as of 14 July 1940. Transferred to Stalag IV D/Z (Heilag) on 12 April 1944, then transferred out on 7 September 1944 for repatriation via Gothenburg in Sweden.
     

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