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#1 museumtom

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 10:06 PM

This will blow your mind;
http://www.hut-six.c...search39-47.php

You can search the CWGC with this new search engine from geoff. Its ten times better than the CWGC itslef.
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#2 Paul Reed

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 10:35 PM

Was just about to post this myself. Have certainly found it very useful already. Top marks to the man himself for getting this online!
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#3 Ron Goldstein

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 10:43 PM

Hi MuseumTom

I tested both Search engines by entering my late brother's details:

Goldstein as the surname
Royal Air Force as the Service
1945 as the year

The CWGC gave the correct answer immediately, Geoffs search engine returns "not found"

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I served as a Driver/Op (Wireless Operator) with the 49th Light Anti Aircraft Rgt. (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa, Sicily, Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps.

 

Finally, I served as Loader/Op with the 4th Queen's Own Hussars (6th Armd.,78th & 56 Div) from Mar 1945 to Dec 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) finishing up as Tech Cpl. for "A" Sqdrn.  I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 10:50 PM

To test it I looked for cousin Bill.
I entered Dadge and Royal Air Force.
The real CWGC site was instant, Geoff's was very slow.

EDIT, just did Wiltshire Regiment and get 1000 results, now you can't do that on CWGC.
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#5 Rich Payne

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 10:55 PM

Tom, That's fantastic - The possibility to search on line by unit and date range - Great stuff !

I can see me spending quite a bit of time there !
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#6 Owen

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 10:57 PM

mm just done, RECONNAISSANCE CORPS. again with 1000 results.
Think it is maxing out at 1000?

It is.
Search results for: + GRENADIER GUARDS. records found: 1000
Search results for: + LINCOLNSHIRE REGIMENT. records found: 1000
Search results for: + OXFORD AND BUCKS LIGHT INFANTRY. records found: 1000
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#7 Rich Payne

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:00 PM

I've been looking at Royal Engineers for 10/5/40-1/6/40 and the results are credible (540 if I remember). Searching per year might help keep things to a reasonable level.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:08 PM

Find it hard to believe there are only ROYAL WILTSHIRE YEOMANRY. records found: 4
I thought they saw action in the Desert at Alamein?
No casualties? Unless they recorded under another Corps? RAC maybe?
yeomanry.co.uk

At 1800 hours the Regiment were pulled back with orders to re-equip. They had sustained seven killed, three missing believed killed and thirty-two wounded, including the Commanding Officer who had to be evacuated.......
....The Regiment had fifteen killed, twenty seven missing and twenty wounded.


Total for WELSH GUARDS. records found: 696.
So any unit who had under 1000 casualties comes out OK it seems.
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#9 Paul Reed

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:30 PM

Remember it's a search engine guys, not a database. I expect it will take some tweaking before it is running as well as the WW1 version he has produced.
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#10 Cpl Rootes

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:30 PM

I couldn't find any resuslts for my relitives via Geoff. It does say that his records may be incomplete so I won't blame him that much.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:33 PM

Remember it's a search engine guys, not a database. I expect it will take some tweaking before it is running as well as the WW1 version he has produced.

Well said.

Version 1.0.0.

Give him a chance. ;)
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:34 PM

This worked ok Search results for: + 01/01/1940 31/12/1940 + WILTSHIRE REGIMENT. records found: 74
Search results for: + 01/01/1943 31/12/1943 + WILTSHIRE REGIMENT. records found: 59

Like I said, just can't do that on the CWGC site.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:41 PM

The BEF searches that I have done have shown me graves in village cemeteries which I couldn't find any other way.

I'm hoping that it will help me plot how particular units may have retreated to the coast. Very interesting so far.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:48 PM

The BEF searches that I have done have shown me graves in village cemeteries which I couldn't find any other way.

I'm hoping that it will help me plot how particular units may have retreated to the coast. Very interesting so far.


Same here, would never known about this chap without this Search Engine. Only two in that cemetery.

CWGC :: Casualty Details

There are lots of them in ones and twos all over the place near Arras.
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#15 Rich Payne

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 11:53 PM

I cannot imagine that these small plots are ever visited by anyone interested. Anything which makes them more accesible is a good thing.

Rich (Planning my retreat to Dunkirk 2010 tour !)
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#16 Owen

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 12:03 AM

I've just been doing the same as Rich with the 2nd Wilts lads.
One is in Poland, several scattered in little plots all the way up to Dunkirk.
Great help this search engine of Geoff's.
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Posted 21 November 2007 - 07:14 PM

Hi MuseumTom

I tested both Search engines by entering my late brother's details:

Goldstein as the surname
Royal Air Force as the Service
1945 as the year

The CWGC gave the correct answer immediately, Geoffs search engine returns "not found"

Ron


Ron,

You cannot enter 1945 as a year, you need to enter:

01/01/1945-31/12/1945

into the date field to specify a year. This should find him. This allows a date range to be used or enter a particular date as:

dd/mm/yyyy


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#18 geoff501

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 07:17 PM

Find it hard to believe there are only ROYAL WILTSHIRE YEOMANRY. records found: 4
I thought they saw action in the Desert at Alamein?
No casualties? Unless they recorded under another Corps? RAC maybe?
yeomanry.co.uk


try entering Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry into the unit text field. Yes they are down as RAC.

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#19 Paul Reed

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 08:09 PM

Keep up the good work Geoff - this is very useful!
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Posted 21 November 2007 - 10:51 PM

try entering Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry into the unit text field. Yes they are down as RAC.

geoff


Cheers Geoff,
Did that and got the following
Geoff's Search Engine

Search results for: + NONE. records found: 70

So it's me not your search engine.
Thanks for working on it.
Great addition to the CWGC site.
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#21 Ron Goldstein

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 12:23 AM

Geoff

My apologies for short changing your excellent facility, I was not being mealy-mouthed, merely pointing out what I thought was a problem.

Cheers

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:peepwalla:

 

I was "called-up", as a 19 year old, on the 1st of Oct 1942 and was one of 5 serving brothers, one of whom, Jack, was in RAF Bomber Command and was killed on March 16th 1945.

I served as a Driver/Op (Wireless Operator) with the 49th Light Anti Aircraft Rgt. (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa, Sicily, Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps.

 

Finally, I served as Loader/Op with the 4th Queen's Own Hussars (6th Armd.,78th & 56 Div) from Mar 1945 to Dec 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) finishing up as Tech Cpl. for "A" Sqdrn.  I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 12:25 AM

Geoff

My apologies for short changing your excellent facility, I was not being mealy-mouthed, merely pointing out what I thought was a problem.

Cheers

Ron



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Posted 22 November 2007 - 12:52 AM

Absolutely breathtaking. You guys are brilliant!!
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#24 51highland

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 08:56 AM

Once I put the correct info in it worked very well. Like Owen I like the fact you can bring up regiment deaths for a date range. Brilliant, thanks, will be very useful.
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#25 geoff501

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:28 AM

Geoff
My apologies for short changing your excellent facility, I was not being mealy-mouthed, merely pointing out what I thought was a problem.
Ron


No apology necessary, Ron. All search engines are stupid - and need some getting used to.:rolleyes:

If anyone is wondering about the top line "Search results for...." - there is a bug somewhere but it did not seem important enough to delay a release.

Previously, I thought my index was a little short, but forgot to count an important regiment "Civilian War Dead", due to the way these are presented they got lost in the count, but not the index. However it looks like, after a recount, I have about 99% of UK indexed.

Looks like the next update should be a full forename search.

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#26 Ron Goldstein

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:34 AM

Geoff

I feel must tell you and others, of my experience this morning on testing out your admirable CWGC Search Engine.

My Army number was 14300260.

I decided to enter only the first six digits, i.e. 143002 in the "number" field and see if any one who joined the Army near my time had been killed in WW2.

The search produced, amongst others a Trooper Fletcher, Reginald Water who died on the 12th of March 1945, is buried in The Reichswald Forest Cemetery and who's Army Number was 14300257.

Trooper Fletcher's number is just 3 digits lower than mine and he must have joined on the same day, 1st October 1942.

Truly a case of "There but for the Grace of G-d go I"

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If I am not for myself, then who will be for me?
And if I am only for myself, what am I?
And if not now, when?
Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE


:peepwalla:

 

I was "called-up", as a 19 year old, on the 1st of Oct 1942 and was one of 5 serving brothers, one of whom, Jack, was in RAF Bomber Command and was killed on March 16th 1945.

I served as a Driver/Op (Wireless Operator) with the 49th Light Anti Aircraft Rgt. (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa, Sicily, Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps.

 

Finally, I served as Loader/Op with the 4th Queen's Own Hussars (6th Armd.,78th & 56 Div) from Mar 1945 to Dec 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) finishing up as Tech Cpl. for "A" Sqdrn.  I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947

http://www.blogger.c...947129038825503


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Posted 22 November 2007 - 10:38 AM

Geoff

An impressive and valuable piece of work! I also tracked back to your The Crypto Barn, an absolute delight to all who are interested in WW2 cryptography and cipher machines.

I shall link to both in my blog.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 09:23 PM

Geoff, our member raf got me thinking about Black South Africans, I wanted to look up South African Native Military Corps casualties but can't find any.
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Posted 25 November 2007 - 10:42 PM

Geoff, our member raf got me thinking about Black South Africans, I wanted to look up South African Native Military Corps casualties but can't find any.


Owen,

They will be added sometime. The current engine only has UK units. This was chosen to get it running, get the bugs out and add any modifications. When it settles down I can add other nationalities. Saves me having to reprocess lots of indexing at every amendment. Should cover all Commonwealth eventually.

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 11:04 PM

OK Geoff, cheers for that.
Here's to endless hours of "look ups".
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