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#1 Marks

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 08:44 PM

I have been compiling information on RAF and Commonwealth personnel who are listed on the Runnymede Memorial and whose bodies were later found and given a named grave. Mostly aircrew found post-war across Europe.

I thought it would be of interest, and I know there must be quite alot more I haven't found yet.

All these men are still listed on the Runnymede Memorial as the names will only disappear when in the future the panels are replaced.

Quite a number of Battle of Britain pilots are listed over the years due aviation archaeology.

Year ? Copenhagen (Bispebjerg) Cem, Denmark
F/O H.J.A McLEAN R.A.A.F Panel 283 25.2.45 58 Sqn

Year ? Singapore Memorial Col 461
LAC J.W.A TOYE Panel 277 28.2.45 (153 MU)

Year ? Groesbeek Canadian War Cem, Holland
F/O E.J KNOWLES Panel 267 24.3.45 (Glider Pilot Regt 1 Wing ‘D’ Sqn)

Year ? Rheinberg War Cemetery, Germany
P/O W.B WEIR Panel 269 9.4.45 274 Sqn

Year ? Jonkerbos War Cem, Holland
F/L P. LANGSTON R.N.Z.A.F Panel 262 24.10.44 247 Sqn

Year ? Pornic War Cem, France
P/O H.K KEMP R.N.Z.A.F Panel 263 11.4.44 151 Sqn

Year ? Calais Canadian War Cem, France
P/O D.M THOMSON R.A.A.F Panel 259 5.7.44 192 Sqn

Year ? Choloy War Cem, France
P/O S.E ZADOROSNY R.C.A.F Panel 253 18.12.44 432 Sqn

Year ? Groesbeek Canadian War Cem, Holland
P/O R.E CHAMBERS R.C.A.F Panel 249 29.9.44 416 Sqn

Year ? St Charles De Percy Cem, France
F/L H. RUSSEL R.C.A.F Panel 244 16.6.44 443 Sqn

Year ? Bergen Op Zoom War Cem
S/L R.W ALEXANDER D.F.C R.C.A.F Panel 243 21.9.44 437 Sqn
F/O W.S McLINTOCK R.C.A.F Panel 247 21.9.44 437 Sqn
+(Cpl A.E. HALL RASC 21.9.44 Groesbeek Mem ?) Collective Grave

Year ? Yerseke General Cem, Holland
Sgt R.G.V SIMPSON Panel 237 25.5.44 214 Sqn (Believed to Be)

Year ? Rheinberg War Cemetery Germany
F/L W.H JANNEY RCAF Panel 244 14.10.44 428 Sqn
Sgt L. BROTHERHOOD Panel 225 14.10.44 428 Sqn
P/O W.H KILLNER RNZAF Panel 263 14.10.44 428 Sqn
P/O A.V BATTY RCAF Panel 245 14.10.44 428 Sqn
P/O A.S McFEETORS RCAF Panel 251 14.10.44 428 Sqn
P/O P.R JONES RCAF Panel 251 14.10.44 428 Sqn
P/O F.A HARRISON D.F.C RCAF Panel 250 14.10.44 428 Sqn

Year ? Boulogne Eastern Cemetery, France
F/S J. KAUER Panel 219 23.12.44 310 Sqn

Year ? Crozon Com Cem, France
F/O H.G GILCHRIST R.C.A.F Panel 246 14.8.44 44 Sqn

Year ? St Charles De Percy War Cem, France
F/O M. McAULEY RCAF Panel 247 14.8.44 44 Sqn
F/S D.J MAGUIRE PANEL 220 14.8.44 44 Sqn

Year ? Ijsselmuiden General Cemetery, Holland
Sgt T. GRIBBEN Panel 230 13.6.44 12 Sqn
Sgt W. WALLINGER Panel 239 13.6.44 12 Sqn

Year ? Jette (St Pierre) Communal Cem, Belgium
F/S R. VAN WYMERS Panel 223 29.11.44 349 Sqn


Year ? Deinze Communal Cemetery, Belgium
F/O C.A.J DE SAINT AUBAIN Panel 205 19.10.44 349 Sqn


Year ? Reichswald Cwgc Germany
P/O J.R GILLESPIE Panel 211 7.10.44 78 Sqn
Sgt E.P KNIGHT Panel 232 7.10.44 78 Sqn
F/O B.E TURNBULL Panel 209 7.10.44 78 Sqn
Sgt C.E MILLER Panel 234 7.10.44 78 Sqn
Sgt G. SHARROCKS Panel 237 7.10.44 78 Sqn
Sgt H.R PORTER Panel 236 7.10.44 78 Sqn

Year ? Sage War Cemetery Germany
F/L D.K McCUAIG D.F.C Panel 202 28.9.44 541 Sqn

Year ? Rheinburg War Cemetery Germany
F/L R.F LEWIS Panel 202 8.12.44 630 Sqn
Sgt L. OYSTON Panel 235 8.12.44 630 Sqn
F/S K.F LENTON Panel 219 8.12.44 630 Sqn
F/O R.H.W USHER Panel 209 8.12.44 630 Sqn
Sgt C. COOK Panel 227 8.12.44 630 Sqn
F/S R.J BENNETT Panel 215 8.12.44 630 Sqn

Year ? Bergen op Zoom Canadian War Cemetery
P/O R. H WATTS RAAF Panel 191 21.10.43 44 Sqn

Year ? Berlin CWGC Germany
Sgt B.J.W BROWN Panel 143 18.8.43 61 Sqn

Year ? Esbjerg (Fourfelt) Cem Denmark
S/L J.C RICHARDS Panel 119 21.4.43 12 Sqn

Year ? Wonseradeel (Makkum) Protestant Churchyard, Holland
W/C W.P SHAND D.F.C Panel 118 20.4.43 139 Sqn (Grave – Believed to be)

Year ? Reichswald Cwgc Germany
F/O W.C BRISBANE Panel 123 17.4.43 51 Sqn

Year ? Longuenesse (St Omer) Souvenir Cem, France
P/O T.T FOX RNZAF Panel 115 4.4.42 485 Sqn

Year ? Jonkerbos War Cem Holland
Sgt F.J HART RCAF Panel 61 27.6.41 150 Sqn

Year ? Brookwood Military Cem
LAC J.T CARR Panel 56 10.4.41 (5 SFTS)

Year ? Sage War Cem Germany
Sgt V.J STICKLAND Panel 52 16.4.41 10 Sqn

Year ? Alamein Memorial, Egypt Addenda Panel 285/286
Sgt R. J. COLLIER Panel 41 31.8.41 148 Sqn
Sgt R.T DODD Panel 42 31.8.41 148 Sqn
Sgt G.C.S LEACH Panel 47 31.8.41 148 Sqn
Sgt N. JARVIS Panel 46 31.8.41 148 Sqn
Sgt L.G McCORMACK Panel 47 31.8.41 148 Sqn

Year ? Error
(F/L) K. DEEN (Dutch Navy) Panel 29 30.8.41 320 Sqn

Year ? Vernon Com Cem, France
LAC T. CAIN Panel 22 5.6.40 (72 Wing S Flight)

Year ? 1996 + Terlincthun Cem France
Sgt T. JONES Panel 16 19.5.40 142 Sqn

Year ? Terlincthun Cem France
P/O J.J McELLIGOTT Panel 9 19.5.40 12 Sqn

Year ? Narvik New Cem Norway
P/O J.L WILKIE Panel 10 2.6.40 263 Sqn

Year ? Post 1996 Rheinberg Cwgc, Germany
Sgt S.R MITCHELL Panel 2 30.10.39 139 Sqn

Year ? Milsbeek War Cemetery, Holland
F/S G.S READER RAAF Panel 261 17.9.44 102 Sqn

Year ? Uden War Cemetery, Holland
F/O W.J MAWDESLEY RAAF Panel 110 2.6.42 23 O.T.U
P/O G.W MURRAY RCAF Panel 101 2.6.42 23 O.T.U
F/S F.J.B SCRIMES RCAF Panel 106 2.6.42 23 O.T.U

Sgt K.N KILLBY Panel 87 2.6.42 23 O.T.U

1958 ? Ravenna War Cem Italy
F/O J.T.N MILES Panel 67 24.10.42 57 Sqn
Sgt G.G FRASER R.A.A.F Panel 112 24.10.42 57 Sqn
F/O W.C HAMILTON R.C.A.F Panel 99 24.10.42 57 Sqn
Sgt J.G TAYLOR Panel 95 24.10.42 57 Sqn
Sgt H.B SMITH (Newfoundland) Panel 98 24.10.42 57 Sqn
Sgt A.F HEFFERNAN Panel 85 24.10.42 57 Sqn
Sgt W.J WAKELIN Panel 95 24.10.42 57 Sqn

1952 Bergen op Zoom Canadian War Cemetery
F/S J. W BLACK RNZAF Panel 63 7.11.41 75 Sqn
Sgt T.H GRAY RNZAF Panel 64 7.11.41 75 Sqn
P/O E. LLOYD RNZAF Panel 63 7.11.41 75 Sqn
F/S L.C GREEN Panel 36 7.11.41 75 Sqn
Sgt J.D THOMPSON Panel 53 7.11.41 75 Sqn
Sgt C.T BLACK Panel 39 7.11.41 75 Sqn

1952+ Bergen Op Zoom Canadian War Cem
W/O J. P O’MEARA R.A.A.F Panel 259 17.6.44 77 Sqn

1953 Durnbach War Cem, Germany
Sgt S.J BOWDEN Panel 274 3.2.45 44 Sqn
F/S L.H BEAUMONT R.C.A.F Panel 281 3.2.45 44 Sqn
F/S E.C DUFRESNE R.C.A.F Panel 281 3.2.45 44 Sqn

1955 Berlin War Cem, Germany
P/O V.R PURMAL R.C.A.F Panel 252 3.1.44 156 Sqn

1962 Groesbeek Canadian War Cem Holland
F/O W.N EALES Panel 66 20.12.42 97 Sqn
Sgt J DONALD Panel 81 20.12.42 97 Sqn
Sgt S. V DEED Panel 81 20.12.42 97 Sqn
F/S A MORTIMER RCAF Panel 105 20.12.42 97 Sqn

1963/64 Haugesund (Rossebo) Var Frelsers Cem, Norway
F/S D.T TAYLOR RCAF Panel 107 24.10.42 150 Sqn

1965 Adegem Canadian Cem – 1994 Slavicie Udolie Cem, Bratislava, Slovakia
S/L O. SMIK D.F.C Panel 201 28.11.44 127 Sqn (Post war promoted General)
(Wrongly buried as F/O Taymans 28/11/44 127 Sqn Belgium- 1965 Taymans body found)

1967 Groesbeek Canadian War Cem Holland
F/O L.W SOMERS RCAF Panel 174 25.6.43 427 Sqn
F/S J.H WALTON RCAF Panel 186 25.6.43 427 Sqn

1967 ? Jonkerbos War Cem, Holland
F/O R.S CHISHOLM Panel 29 13.6.41 103 Sqn
P/O A.V.J HARDCASTLE Panel 32 13.6.41 103 Sqn
F/O W.C TAFFENDER Panel 30 13.6.41 103 Sqn
F/S A. GREENSIDES Panel 36 13.6.41 103 Sqn
Sgt A.G BURBRIDGE Panel 40 13.6.41 103 Sqn

1972 Brookwood Military Cem
P/O G.J DRAKE Panel 8 9.9.40 607 Sqn

1973 Jonkerbos War Cem Holland
F/S W. MOREY RCAF Panel 185 13.5.43 90 Sqn
Sgt B.A BACON Panel 141 13.5.43 90 Sqn
Sgt R.S SHAW Panel 164 13.5.43 90 Sqn (Date?) Amsterdam New Eastern Cem
Sgt C. GREEN Panel 151 13.5.43 90 Sqn

1976 Kviberg Cem Sweden
P/O W.H BOWLER RCAF Panel 99 4.9.42 144 Sqn
F/S J.P CAMPBELL RCAF Panel 103 4.9.42 144 Sqn
F/S J.S JEWETT RCAF Panel 104 4.9.42 144 Sqn

1978 Brookwood Military Cem
Sgt E.J EGAN Panel 14 17.9.40 501 Sqn

1979 Brookwood Military Cem
F/L H.R.A BERESFORD Panel 4 7.9.40 257 Sqn

1980s Terlincthun Cem France
Sgt J.C.G CHRISTIE Panel 41 12.8.41 222 Sqn

1980 Brookwood Military Cem
Sgt J.J BRIMBLE Panel 12 4.9.40 73 Sqn

1981 Brookwood Military Cem
P/O C.D FRANCIS Panel 8 30.8.40 253 Sqn

1981 Rotterdam (Crooswijk) General Cem Holland
F/O C.R MOORE Panel 6 10.5.40 600 Sqn
Cpl L.D ISAACS Panel 22 10.5.40 600 Sqn

1981 Spijkenisse Gen Cem Holland
P/O M.H ANDERSON Panel 7 10.5.40 600 Sqn
LAC H.C.W HAWKINS Panel 23 10.5.40 600 Sqn

1982 Bergen General Cem Holland
W/O W.R ALLISON Panel 72 2.7.42 109 Sqn
Sgt R.J LIVERSUCH Panel 88 2.7.42 109 Sqn

1982 St Stephen’s Churchyard Lympe Kent
Sgt G.W PEARSON Panel 18 10.9.40 501 Sqn

1983 Brookwood Military Cem
P/O J.B RAMSAY Panel 9 18.8.40 151 Sqn

1984 ? Newquay (Fairpark) Cem, Cornwall
F/O A.D GAVEL RCAF Panel 246 17.4.44 525 Sqn

1984 St Charles de Percy Cem France
F/S R.A THURSBY Panel 222 9.8.44 198 Sqn

1984 Salehurst Cem East Sussex
F/O M.D DOULTON Panel 5 31.8.40 601 Sqn

1986 St Oswald’s Churchyard, Yorkshire
P/O C.B BARBER Panel 68 24.4.42 140 Sqn

1989 Terlincthun Cem France
F/L F.G.H CHALK D.F.C Panel 119 17.2.43 124 Sqn

1989 St Charles De Percy Cem France
F/L A.E MIRON RCAF Panel 244 17.8.44 245 Sqn

1991 Margate Cem Kent
Sgt E. SCOTT Panel 19 27.9.40 222 Sqn

1990s Severomorsk (Vaenga) Cem Russian Federation
F/L D.E HEALY D.S.O Panel 65 25.9.42 210 Sqn

AC2 R.E HOLMES Panel 98 4.9.42 144 Sqn


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Posted 14 December 2010 - 11:12 PM

Great info Mark.

Makes one query I have clearer.

Also your last entry on the Addendum panel 289 Sgt Smee was an Australian in the RAF.

At the beginning of the war he was serving in the Australian merchant marine but got tired of being shot at and not being able to fire back so, on arrival UK, he jumped ship, changed his name, joined the RAF. At the time of the crash he was engaged to a local girl from Hayes in Middlesex who he was going to take home when the Beaufighter was being introduced to Australia. This also explained the reason why he was buried so far from Tangmere in Sussex.

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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 15 December 2010 - 08:56 PM

I notice that a lot of the "Missing" are in fact at Brookwood Military Hospital.
Now, I can understand a certain amount of confusion about various burials scattered throughout the Country, but surely Brookwood must have had some serious glitches in its record keeping if the RAF didn't know what became of them?
Is there a sensible explanation?
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#4 Pieter F

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:05 AM

Interesting info, Mark!
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:20 AM

2005 Marham Cem Norfolk
Sgt W.P REIDY Panel 276 20.3.45 85 Sqn



Fenland & West Norfolk Aviation Museum were responsible for the recovery of this airman
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:poppy: In memory of all those of the Norfolk Regiment who lost their lives in World War 2:poppy:

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:27 AM

Name:EALES, WILLIAM NORMAN
Nationality:United Kingdom
Rank:Flying Officer
Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text:97 Sqdn.
Age:26
Date of Death:20/12/1942
Service No:130102
Additional information:Son of Percy and Elizabeth Eales; husband of Dorothy Eales, of Formby, Liverpool, Lancashire.
Grave/Memorial Reference:XIX. E. 10.
Cemetery:GROESBEEK CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY



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Posted 18 January 2011 - 04:00 PM

Year ? Milsbeek War Cemetery, Holland
F/S G.S READER RAAF Panel 261 17.9.44 102 Sqn


The burial of Flight Sergeant Reader still remains a mystery. See undermentioned link. Together with some other people I have tried to sort the mystery out, but that seemed very difficult..

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 08:32 PM

Hi,

Great input everybody, I hope to keep adding to the list. I do like a good mystery !

Also names are still being added to the Memorial Addenda panel.

F/O J.E Cornelison RCAF 438 Sqn KIA 29/9/44 is now listed on the Addenda. He was recorded as being buried at Groesbeek Canadian War Cemetery. Also F/O J.W Millar RCAF 44 Sqn KIA 8/2/43 is now listed on Panel 291. He was recorded as being buried at Lemvig Cemetery Denmark. I believe in his case there was a possible mix up with a sailor also called Miller !

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 09:38 PM

Hi Marks

There are a few in Hannover too, when I was there last year found some RAAF what were missing until the aircraft was recovered.. Geoff can tell you more some Lan crew...

Cheers
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 09:59 PM

for ref
F/O J.E Cornelison RCAF 438 Sqn KIA 29/9/44 is now listed on the Addenda. He was recorded as being buried at Groesbeek Canadian War Cemetery. Also F/O J.W Millar RCAF 44 Sqn KIA 8/2/43 is now listed on Panel 291

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:03 AM

Hi,

Great input everybody, I hope to keep adding to the list. I do like a good mystery !


A small summary of this mystery: Flight Sergeant Gordon Reader was part of the crew for Halifax MZ289. At 17 September 1944 they were ordered to fly a 'classified bomb drop' above the North Sea. The plane got lost without a trace.
Near Milsbeek a plane crashed at the same day, including a Australian airman. As there was only one Australian airman listed for a mission that day (Reader), he was identified as Flight Sergeant Gordon Reader. But the other crewmembers of the MZ289 were not recovered from the crash site and are still missing.
And how can it be that the MZ289, who was on a mission above the North Sea, crashed near Milsbeek? In that case there must have been a link between the classified mission target and Market Garden??
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 12:02 PM

Hi Marks

There are a few in Hannover too, when I was there last year found some RAAF what were missing until the aircraft was recovered.. Geoff can tell you more some Lan crew...

Cheers
Tom


This link gives the specifics.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 01:59 PM

Thanks Peter & Tom, just the information I am looking for.

I have just update the list with the four RAAF crew buried 2005 !

Thanks again
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Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:15 PM

Hi,

I've added quite a number of new entries for 1940-1941 panels.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 01:25 PM

Hi,

So far excluding the addenda panels found RAF 133, RCAF 28, RAAF 16, RNZAF 7.

1939,1940,1941,1942,1943 complete

Panels affected
2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,14,16,18,19,22,23,29,30,31,32,35,36,39,40,41,42,
43,46,47,49,50,51,52,53,56,57,59,61,63,64,65,66,67,68,71,72,75,81,85,
87,88,90,93,95,98,99,101,103,104,105,106,107,110,112,115,118,119,
123,141,142,143,144,145,146,151,164,169,174,179,185,186,191,200
201,202,203,205,209,211,214,215,219,220,222,223,224,225,226,227,
230,231,

So when the panels are changed in the future the layout of the panels will be very different !

Mark

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 01:11 PM

Hi,

99 % Complete

RAF 139 + 8 Addenda (147), RCAF 42, RAAF 20,
RNZAF 9.

1939-1947 complete !

Panels affected
2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,14,16,18,19,22,23,29,30,31,32, 35,36,39,40,41,42,43,46,47,49,50,52,53,56,57,59
61,63,64,65,66,67,68,71,72,75,81,85,
87,88,90,93,95,98,99,101,103,104,105,106,107,110,
112,115,118,119,123,141,142,143,144,145,146
151,164,169,174,179,18 5,186,191,200
201,202,203,205,209,211,214,215,219,220,222,223,
224,225,226,227,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,
238,239,240,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250
251,252,253,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,
267,269,271,273,274,276,277,281,283,289.290

Mark

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 01:46 PM

Hi Marks,

RAAF definitely founds burials/headstones for.

Do you have a list? Means I need to have more headstones photographed?


Cheers

Geoff
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My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:35 PM

Geoff,

19 RAAF so far, may be another one or two for 1945. Will know pretty soon.

Year ? Calais Canadian War Cem, France
P/O D.M THOMSON R.A.A.F Panel 259 5.7.44 192 Sqn

Year ? Bergen op Zoom Canadian War Cemetery
P/O R. H WATTS RAAF Panel 191 21.10.43 44 Sqn

Year ? Milsbeek War Cemetery, Holland
F/S G.S READER RAAF Panel 261 17.9.44 102 Sqn

Year ? Uden War Cemetery, Holland
F/O W.J MAWDESLEY RAAF Panel 110 2.6.42 23 O.T.U


Year ? Ravenna War Cem Italy
Sgt G.G FRASER R.A.A.F Panel 112 24.10.42 57 Sqn

1952+ Bergen Op Zoom Canadian War Cem
W/O J. P O’MEARA R.A.A.F Panel 259 17.6.44 77 Sqn

1990s Parchim Cem Germany
F/S J.S SCOTT RAAF Panel 261 24.3.44 51 Sqn

1993 St Charles de Percy Cem France
P/O D.W MASON RAAF Panel 258 18.6.44 198 Sqn

1996+ Groesbeek Canadian War Cem, Holland
P/O M. H BELL R.A.A.F D.F.C Panel 258 9.9.44 19 Sqn

2001 Haarlemmermeer Gen Cem Holland
F/S H.J BOAL RAAF Panel 260 31.1.44 97 Sqn

2003 Berlin CWGC Germany
F/L I.G DURSTON RAAF DFC Panel 256 29.1.44 467 Sqn
P/O R.L LUDLOW RAAF Panel 258 29.1.44 467 Sqn
F/S P.R GILL RAAF Panel 260 29.1.44 467 Sqn
F/S J.W.A SUTHERLAND RAAF Panel 261 29.1.44 467 Sqn

2005 Hanover CWGC Germany
F/O A. C BOND RAAF Panel 257 7.12.44 463 Sqn
F/O G. THOMAS RAAF Panel 258 7.12.44 463 Sqn
F/S R.T HAWTHORN RAAF Panel 260 7.12.44 463 Sqn
F/S J.L HENDERSON RAAF Panel 260 7.12.44 463 Sqn

2011 Ranville Cwgc France
F/L H.L SMITH RAAF Panel 256 11.6.44 453 Sq

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 08:23 PM

Here's another. Molly Grace (née Lecky) was killed when she was in a plane which crashed on an airfield in England. So was the other occupant; it is not known who was flying the plane. As she was buried in the family graveyard in Ballon, Co. Carlow, Ireland, it is not clear why her name is on the Runnymede Memorial.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:06 AM

Hello Belville
Is it possible that the body was not recovered and that she is remembered on the headstone in Ireland

Section Officer MOLLY ROSAMOND EVELYN GRACE

2839, Women's Auxiliary Air Force
who died
on 14 June 1942

Remembered with honour
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:11 PM

Hi Marks,

All of mine are up to date with same cemetery listings.

Cheers

Geoff
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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


#22 Belville

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:33 PM


Is it possible that the body was not recovered and that she is remembered on the headstone in Ireland.


It's fairly certain it is her grave. It is in a family burial ground, and on the wall is a memorial to a relation (J. R. F. Lecky), who was killed in WW I and is buried in Iraq. I would have thought there would be a similar memorial to Molly if she was buried elsewhere.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:40 PM

Hello Belville

It might be worth you contacting CWGC and see if they have further info
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:03 PM

There is an article about her in the 1993/4 volume of the journal of the local history society. I'll have a look at that.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:55 PM

Looking through the Autralian national archives I came across this gem :

Mosquito DZ 597 TK Forsyth and LC James, MRES states buried at Wittstock/Dosse cemetery in graves 19 and 20 - a small cemetery on google earth - but they are unable to access he graves due to the Soviets refusing permission. if however this becomes possible in the future then the graves will be marked in the meantime, the airmen will be commemorated on the memorial being constructed at Runnymede.

Well it's now 2012 and Wittstock/Dosse is very accessible now !!
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:27 AM

Looking through the Australian national archives I came across this gem :

Mosquito DZ 597 TK Forsyth and LC James, MRES states buried at Wittstock/Dosse cemetery in graves 19 and 20 - a small cemetery on google earth - but they are unable to access he graves due to the Soviets refusing permission. if however this becomes possible in the future then the graves will be marked in the meantime, the airmen will be commemorated on the memorial being constructed at Runnymede.

Well it's now 2012 and Wittstock/Dosse is very accessible now !!


This is the full loss detail. They are both still listed at Runnymede so I will ask the CWGC if they intend to mark with a headstone at this cemetery or exhume and rebury these two airmen at one of the main German cemeteries and see what their response is!

Failing a credible response, a secondary request will be made to the Hon Warren Snowdon MP, Minister for Veterans' Affairs in Australia. He is the minister who represented at William Lacy Smiths' burial at Ranville and would be involved with the burial of William James Smith at Cassel next April.

RAAF PERSONNEL SERVING ON ATTACHMENT IN ROYAL AIR FORCE
SQUADRONS AND SUPPORT UNITS IN WORLD WAR 2 AND MISSING WITH
NO KNOWN GRAVE.

409587 Flight Sergeant FORSYTH, Thomas Kevin

Source:


NAA : A705, 166/14/109
Aircraft Type: Mosquito
Serial number: DZ 597
Radio call sign:
Unit: 139 Sqn RAF

Summary:

Mosquito DZ 597 of 139 (Jamaica) Sqn RAF, took off from RAF Station, Marham, at
1839 hours on 20 October 1943 along with 8 other squadron aircraft, to attack Berlin.
Nothing was heard from DZ 597 after take off and it did not return to base.

Crew:

RAAF 409587 Flt Sgt Forsyth, T K (Pilot)
RAF 1268838 Sgt James, L G (Navigator)

Following post war enquiries and investigations, German documents revealed that the
aircraft crashed at Zaatzke, 4 miles north west of Wettstock, and the crew were buried in
the Wettstock (Doose) Cemetery, 55 miles north west of Berlin, and in the Russian zone
of occupied Germany. As it was not possible to visit the grave and identify the remains,
their names are recorded on the missing memorial at Runnymede, UK.

In Memory of
Flight Sergeant
Thomas Kevin Forsyth

409587, Royal Australian Air Force
who died on 20 October 1943 Age 25
Son of David Craig Forsyth and Margaret Anne Forsyth, of East Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Sergeant
Leonard Charles James
1268838, 139 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died on 20 October 1943 Age 22
Son of Leonard Charles and Amelia Florence James, of Kilburn, Middlesex.
Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

Edited by spidge, 03 March 2012 - 10:32 AM.

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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 03 March 2012 - 05:36 PM

Thanks Spidge, who knows, the graves may be lost, the cemetery records lost, however with the recent debate on RAF commands forum about lost Commonwealth aircrew due to Soviet attitudes, here is one very clear case of that.

At the very least I think these two guys are wrongly commemorated, they should not be on Runnymede, at the least they should have special memorials in Berling 39-45 cem reading " buried at the time in Wittstock/Dosse cemetery but who's grave is now lost, thier glory shall not be blotted out"
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 12:40 AM

Thanks Spidge, who knows, the graves may be lost, the cemetery records lost, however with the recent debate on RAF commands forum about lost Commonwealth aircrew due to Soviet attitudes, here is one very clear case of that.

At the very least I think these two guys are wrongly commemorated, they should not be on Runnymede, at the least they should have special memorials in Berling 39-45 cem reading " buried at the time in Wittstock/Dosse cemetery but who's grave is now lost, thier glory shall not be blotted out"


Thanks Jon,

I had sent the email detailing the loss details in my post so we will await their response which usually takes a month or so.

Hopefully the response will be positive.

Cheers

Geoff
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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:30 PM

Found another interesting one, Lanc ND475 18/19/4/44, crashed at Chapelbridge U.K., with Aussie pilot and 2nd dickie, Chorley has "wreckage spread across the fenlands"

NA Australia has far more details which states Aircraft dived vertically into the ground at high speed.

How little chance do these two Aussies and their 5 crewmates have of being recovered compared to the recent Spit pilots in France ?? none at all realistically with the British attitude
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:56 AM

:poppy::poppy::poppy::poppy: :poppy::poppy::poppy::poppy:

RAAF PERSONNEL SERVING ON ATTACHMENT IN ROYAL AIR FORCE
SQUADRONS AND SUPPORT UNITS IN WORLD WAR 2 AND MISSING WITH
NO KNOWN GRAVE.

420493 Pilot Officer OBERG, Albert Edward
425129 Pilot Officer CULLIFORD, Ronald Firth


Source:
NAA: A705, 166/8/430
Aircraft Type: Lancaster
Serial number: ND 475
Radio call sign: DX -
Unit: 57 Sqn RAF

Summary:

Lancaster ND 475 of 57 Sqn RAF from RAF Station East Kirby, Lincolnshire, had taken
part in a raid on an enemy target in France, and was on its return flight when it crashed 2
miles south east of Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, at 0133 hours on 19 April, 1944.
The aircraft was returning with the main bomber force, when it dived vertically into the
ground at high speed and was completely destroyed by the impact and fire.
It is not know whether the crash was caused by enemy action as it was completely
destroyed.

Crew:

RAAF 420493 P/O Oberg, A E, Captain (Pilot)
RAAF 425129 P/O Culliford, R F (2nd Pilot)
RAF Sgt Kinnes, W D
RAF P/O Crossley, E F
RAF P/O Pizzey, H
RAF Sgt Richards, J S
RAF P/O Adams, H H
RAF Sgt Willis, J R

The remains of Sgt Willis were recovered and interred, with the remaining crew recorded
as having no known grave.


In Memory of
Pilot Officer
Albert Edward Oberg
420493, Royal Australian Air Force
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 32
Son of Edwin Thomas Oberg and Helena Oberg; husband of Minna Louisa May Oberg, of Punchbowl, New
South Wales, Australia. Solicitor.

Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Pilot Officer
Ronald Firth Culliford
425129, Royal Australian Air Force
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 22
Son of Norman John Smith Culliford, and of Ruth Minnia Culliford, of Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia.
Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Sergeant
William Duncan Kinnes
1522824, 57 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died on 19 April 1944

Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Pilot Officer
Edmund Forbes Crossley
174670, 57 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 34
Son of Edmund and Georgina Forbes Crossley; husband of Doris Edith Crossley, of Pembury, Kent.
Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Pilot Officer
Herbert Rex Pizzey
174690, 57 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 23
Son of Herbert Clarence and Alice Blanche Pizzey, of Goodmayes, Essex.
Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Sergeant
Joseph Stewart Richards
1394671, 57 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 20
Son of John and Emma Richards, of Ilford, Essex.
Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Pilot Officer
Henry Harris Adams
174599, 57 Sqdn., Royal Air Force
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 40
Son of Alfred James Adams and Elizabeth Adams; husband of Morwenna Mary Adams, of Exmouth,
Devon.

Remembered with Honour
Runnymede Memorial

In Memory of
Sergeant
John Frederick Willis
2208994, 57 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died on 19 April 1944 Age 19
Son of Victor William and Ellen Willis, of Bury.
Remembered with Honour
Bury Cemetery, Redvales

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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 





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