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#1 dbf

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 06:32 PM

Absolutely brilliant, thank you very much for these Geoff.
If anyone wanted to add page no.s, would you be able to put them into your files?
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Posted 07 November 2010 - 05:38 PM

I've put up an index file here:

Geoff's WO 373 lists

The data is not all loaded yet, but it only takes a few minutes to generate each file.

The theatre files can be quite big - up to 4MB. There are five large files, (F2B, NW Europe, Middle East, Burma and India, Italy) the others are mostly well under 1MB.

The WO files are smaller. There is a blank column so energetic folks can fill in the page number from the 'digital microfilm' downloads (:mellow:).
The files are sorted by name, I'm not sure if this is the best option. I have not checked the microfilm order - it may be the same as the unsorted data order, which would make adding page numbers easier, but it's probably going haywire somewhere.

I've just tried loading one of the html files into OpenOffice - it works OK and is editable although when you save again as html you get a bigger file size (OpenOffice does not use Geoff's patent pending unbloated file systems). Not tried Excel or its OpenOffice version.

Any suggestions welcome.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 06:26 PM

I have uploaded all the data files now. The number after the link is the number of records in each. Links which are not active means I did not find any WW2 data in that part.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 07:03 PM

If anyone wanted to add page no.s, would you be able to put them into your files?


I would have to upload them, to overwrite the originals. They could be put as Excel on here also. I've no particular preference, whatever is most useful. Not tried an excel conversion yet, think it's easily possible.
I might have a go at adding page numbers to one of them when I've got more time. That's when the problems will be found :huh:
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The WW2 Commonwealth Casualty Search Engine:
http://www.hut-six.c.../search39-47.php

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 07:14 PM

I have the 2 files under WO 373/48 done already in both pdf and excel but they are in page / sequential order, not in alpha order ...:unsure:
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http://www.ww2talk.c...s-medals-4.html
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#6 geoff501

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:37 PM

I have the 2 files under WO 373/48 done already in both pdf and excel but they are in page / sequential order, not in alpha order ...:unsure:
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http://www.ww2talk.c...s-medals-4.html


It would be easy for me to undo the alpha order. I could keep the alpha version, might be useful for browsing, especially for those transcription errors.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:47 PM

Yes, I prefer your alpha order - as you say it helps with finding the transcription errors - and it does away with needing to know LG date and regimental seniority to have any hope in finding an image.
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#8 geoff501

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 10:14 PM

I've put the first 10 files up in unsorted order. I'll check later if they correspond with the order in the microfilm files. Will do the others tomorrow (yawn...busy day...), so either can be used. If the unsorted files are used to enter the page numbers, they can always be re-sorted later in a spreadsheet, if needed.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 07:24 PM

I've put the first 10 files up in unsorted order...

All uploaded now.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 07:33 PM

Fine job.
Will try to make a start on WO 373/49, sometime... :D
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 09:59 PM

A list of units found in WO373, might help when searching the NA site as there are many spelling and transcript variations, for example:

RECCONAISSANCE REGIMENT
RECONNAISSANCE REGIMENT
RECCONNAISSANCE SQUADRON
etc...

WO 373 Awards Units List
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 12:52 PM

Thanks Geoff, that will come in very handy indeed.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:26 AM

Hi all,

It is so hard trying to find awards on the National Archive website, and obtaining copies of the records.:confused: And I am a little annoyed I find out about the two links below before!:(

Today I stumbled on some great work that Geoff Sullivan has been doing, namely: Geoff's WO 373 lists

This combined with the information in http://www.ww2talk.c...6224-post1.html, is a great boon.

Saves time and money.

Gotta love it!! :D

Mark
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 09:56 AM

I hope you've found the digital microfilm page. It's been linked before on the forum, worth repeating.

The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Refine Browse Criteria

Downloads are free, but very large files. Then you just have to browse through the very large file to find the bit you want.

Please feel free to create an index to these files :huh:
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The WW2 Commonwealth Casualty Search Engine:
http://www.hut-six.c.../search39-47.php

"Well, the most important thing that was new was the idea of URI -- or URL. The idea that any piece of information anywhere should have an identifier, which will not only identify it, but allow you to get hold of it. That idea was the basic clue to the universality of the Web. That was the only thing I insisted upon." Tim Berners-Lee.





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Posted 06 July 2011 - 11:04 AM

I hope you've found the digital microfilm page. It's been linked before on the forum, worth repeating.

The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Refine Browse Criteria

Downloads are free, but very large files. Then you just have to browse through the very large file to find the bit you want.

Please feel free to create an index to these files :huh:


Certainly did Geoff - this is an excellent piece of work.

Very impressed.

Mark
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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:47 PM

Whilst cross referencing an award with the above search engine, I found that this award seems to be absent from this very good research tool.

How does one get in contact with Geoff in order to have this corrected? or by merely posting this, it will be picked up.

The Military Medal

No. 2966508 Bandsman Reginald Edward
Taylor, The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
(Princess Louise's) (97, St. Paul's

Road, Walworth).

http://www.london-ga...supplements/394

His citation was published in the "Straits Times"

“His great devotion to duty during bombing and machine-gun attacks was an example to all. At the height of activity he was exposed to great danger in carrying casualties to the ambulances”


Info courtesy of J Collins Medals.

Regards

Simon



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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:55 PM

Simon
If it doesn't appear on the TNA index, it won't appear on Geoff's lists, so it's not an error per se. These were intended to help those researchers who were trying to manoeuvre around the vagaries of the TNA search engine eg transcription errors, non-standardized unit names, etc.

The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Refine Browse Criteria

Ref contacting Geoff,
http://www.ww2talk.c...urs-awards.html
It would have been better to have posted on the above thread rather than starting a new one. (Perhaps mod could merge?)
Geoff would have likely received a notification of reply had you done so. As it stands at the moment, the standard method of clicking a username and choosing VM on profile page, PM or email would apply. Click on the above link and then on his username, or search the Members List.


Regards
Diane

Edit: WO 373 refers to the TNA Cat ref. which was placed online available to download for free - with no index. The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Search Results

Edited by dbf, 25 September 2011 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:21 PM

Dianne, Thank you for setting me straight much appreciated

regards



Edit by VP - Hi Simon, I merged the threads to retain D's reply.
Hope that's cool, I don't think sense has been lost ~A

Edited by von Poop, 17 August 2011 - 11:44 PM.
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#19 geoff501

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 07:47 AM

Simon,

Thanks for the update. There must be quite a few missing from the NA index. Anyone googling for these details will probably find your post.

Cheers, Geoff
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Posted 25 September 2011 - 07:17 PM

If I can offer a thought on transferring Geoff's hard work to Excel or other format.

Select the whole page (Ctrl+A) then copy (Ctrl+C).

Past into Notepad. (this removes html formatting inc the hyperllink), delete the page counter detail at the bottom and anything unwanted at the top of the page.

Select all again, copy and paste into Excel.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:49 PM

Fantastic tool I will say. But probably because the one making the files was not good a geography I found a minor mistake:unsure: WO 373/92 also contain citations from French Indo China. Guess SAIGON was not famous at the time unlike later on:D
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