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#1 ramacal

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:41 AM

This is a final reminder if you require Headstone photos in the following Cemeteries. (I already have requests from various members and you know who you are).

Belgium

Geel
Geel Stelen
Leopoldsburg

Netherlands

Bergen-op-Zoom (Both Commonwealth & Canadian Cemeteries).

Please get your requests to me by this evening please. I depart in the wee small hours tomorrow.

I am lucky to be meeting up with a local Belgium historian tomorrow and will be a guest of his "On the Warpath" historical group. Apparently there will be veterans attending and my Sister and I will be on a coach with them. One may even be staying at the same B&B as well.

We will be at events in the Rijkesvorsel Bridgehead area and will visit Merksplas Colonie where Cpl John Harper of the Hallamshires won his VC and Baarle Nassau for the dedication of a monument for victims of the V1 Rocket..

There are other things happening that are non Market Garden related this weekend and remember that they are just as important and should not be forgotten.:poppy:
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 11:22 AM

Sounds interesting - look forward to a full report.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 11:44 AM

Hi, I have 1 West Indian/Caribbean connection at bergen op zoom and would appreciate a photo:

LANE, JOHN NAPIER Initials: Rank: Brigadier Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Artillery Secondary Unit Text: attd. H.Q. 4th Cdn. Armd. Div. Age: 35 Date of Death: 10/11/1944 Awards: D S O Additional information: Son of Henry Napier Lane and Grace Lane; husband of Marguerite Louise Lane, of Somerset, Bermuda. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 10. F. 1. Cemetery:BERGEN-OP-ZOOM CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY, Netherlands

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#4 ramacal

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 12:19 PM

Jerome.

No problem. have added your name to my list.

Regards - Robert
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 04:23 PM

Robert

Have a fantastic time and thanks in advance for my chaps at Leopoldsburg!

Plenty of other (non headstone) pics too please,

Regards

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Lieutenant James Henry Woods 1st Airlanding Light Regiment
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 04:43 PM

Have a good time.
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#7 ramacal

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:05 PM

Many thanks all.

Robert
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 01:56 PM

BERGEN OP ZOOM

Jerome

Here is your headstone photo from Bergen op Zoom Canadian Cemetery for John Napier Lane, DSO, plus the plot in which he rests.

MilitaryX - I have e-mailed you the 2 guys you wanted from the same place.

EnglandPhil - Have e-mailed you the 4 guys you wanted from the next door neighbours plus some general views.

Recce Mitch - Will e-mail yours asap as there are 15 and 51HD I've got the 6 you wanted plus general views.

Regards - Robert

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:09 PM

Photos for 51 HD from Bergen op Zoom. If you like them by e-mail, please PM me with your details.

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:13 PM

BERGEN OP ZOOM - General Views for 51 HD.

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:19 PM

BERGEN OP ZOOM

Jerome

Here is your headstone photo from Bergen op Zoom Canadian Cemetery for John Napier Lane, DSO, plus the plot in which he rests.

MilitaryX - I have e-mailed you the 2 guys you wanted from the same place.

EnglandPhil - Have e-mailed you the 4 guys you wanted from the next door neighbours plus some general views.

Recce Mitch - Will e-mail yours asap as there are 15 and 51HD I've got the 6 you wanted plus general views.

Regards - Robert


Cheers Robert, dont forget to post some details about your week, as Im sure you did more than walk around cemeteries

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#12 ramacal

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:31 PM

I must admit, I don't know where to start. I was careful to write a diary at the end of each day, but it can't capture the experience as I'm sure you already know.
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 03:33 PM

BERGEN OP ZOOM

Headstone photos for Recce Mitch.

I also found WALKER, JW of 43 RECCE who was not on my list.

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 04:00 PM

Robert, Thank you very much for the photos. Trust you had a great trip. Only 2 more cemeteries in Holland to go.

Cheers
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 04:34 PM

GEEL (STELEN) CEMETERY, BELGIUM

Headstone Photos for Recce Mitch (Paul)

Here are the 3 guys from 61 Recce Regt.

Phil (EnglandPhil) - I will e-mail your 2 direct.

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#16 ramacal

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 04:40 PM

GEEL (STELEN) CEMETERY, BELGIUM.

A few general views of the Cemetery, and a memorial to the 50th Northumbrian Division outside. Standing alongside the memorial is my very knowledgable guide, Francis Huijbrechts of the "On the Warpath" research group.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 12:42 AM

Robert, Thank you again for your continuing assistance.

Cheers
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Posted 27 September 2009 - 01:23 AM

BERGEN OP ZOOM

Jerome

Here is your headstone photo from Bergen op Zoom Canadian Cemetery for John Napier Lane, DSO, plus the plot in which he rests.

MilitaryX - I have e-mailed you the 2 guys you wanted from the same place.

EnglandPhil - Have e-mailed you the 4 guys you wanted from the next door neighbours plus some general views.

Recce Mitch - Will e-mail yours asap as there are 15 and 51HD I've got the 6 you wanted plus general views.

Regards - Robert


Colour Me very happy, Robert. Thanks so very much.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 06:02 AM

Very many thanks for the photo's. Have sent message to you.
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Posted 27 September 2009 - 08:14 AM

GEEL CEMETERY, BELGIUM

Recce Mitch (Paul) - Here are your 6 headstone photos. 5 from 49 Recce and 1 from 53 Recce.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 08:20 AM

GEEL CEMETERY, BELGIUM.

General Views of the cemetery. For someone not very interested in WW2, my Sister was very patient with me whilst photographing headstones and completely understood by the end of our trip, the purpose of doing this for myself and other Forum members.

Phil (EnglandPhil) - Have e-mailed your 6 as arranged.

Dbf (Diane) - Will send your 14 IG, 1 SG, 3 WG and 2 CG by disc as arranged.

Andy (Drew5233) - I know you said you did not want Royal Signals guys, but I got you 6 anyway.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 09:10 AM

LEOPOLDSBURG CEMETERY, BELGIUM.

Due to time constraints, I could not get every headstone photo. I completed Sections 1 through 4 (124 Photos) but not Sections 5 through 8 (38 Photos). I hope to go the same time next year and will endeavour to complete the outstanding ones, if they have not already been done by someone else.

Recce Mitch - There are 3 outstanding (WS Gunn, JA Myles & J Evans). Here are the other 14.

Phil (EnglandPhil) - Have e-mailed you your 15 as promised, plus general views.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 10:38 AM

Robert,

It looks like you have had a very busy time on your trip. Looks like you also had a little sun too.

Very well done.

Regards
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Posted 27 September 2009 - 10:50 AM

Thanks Tom

It was a great trip and I'm trying to get the headstone photos sorted before I do anything else.

This is a photo of my Sister and I at Leopoldsburg in front of 2 men from my Dad's Regiment. Lt Cyril Le Rue and Gunner Edwin Warburton were blown up by a mine in Wortel Kolonie on 24 October 1944 whilst operating as Infantry. 49 Infantry Division were very stretched at the time and put Anti Tank and LAA men into the line during an advance. 62 AT, 86 LAA & 102 LAA Regiments were part of the adhoc force (Bob Force) that was put together for this task. There was another called ImpForce, but I don't know the units involved.

Regards - Robert.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 11:06 AM

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Well done.Great pics, looks like you had a good time in NL.
Very moving picture of you and your sister with the graves of the Regt's men.
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Posted 27 September 2009 - 02:14 PM

Thanks Tom

49 Infantry Division were very stretched at the time and put Anti Tank and LAA men into the line during an advance. 62 AT, 86 LAA & 102 LAA Regiments were part of the adhoc force (Bob Force) that was put together for this task. There was another called ImpForce, but I don't know the units involved.

Regards - Robert.


Hi Robert,

Couldn't stand getting my Polar Bears (The Polar Bears-Monty's Left Flank by Patrick Delaforce) book from the shelf to try to find something about that Imp Force.
About Bob Force the book says: "Gen. Barker's next composite force was named 'Bob' Force, and was formed to hold a 10 mile front from the north-west of Merxplaas(sic) to Ryckevorsel(sic), commanded by Lt.-Col. 'Bob' Cory, CO of 89th LAA Regiement, plus the recce regiment, two batteries of the Anti-tank regiment and half of the Kensingtons. They acted mainly as infantery, and in their new role they carried out some excellent patrolling."

Can't find anything on Imp Force. There is mentioning of Clark Force.

In the order of Battle during the decribed period the book mentiones only 55th Atk Regt and 89th LAA Regt.

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#27 ramacal

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 02:38 PM

Thanks for that Levian.

As you say, Lt Col Cory of 89 LAA was the overall commander of Bob Force.

Lt Col NG Thompson of 102 LAA Regt (My Father's unit) was the commander of "A" Sector of Bob Force. A copy of the war diary is attached showing the other units under command.

Lt Col Thompson was actually nearly killed on the night of 24 October 1944. A column of 102 LAA personnel were heading to a school in Wortel Kolonie.

The lead vehicle with a liaison officer of the Belgium White Brigade went over the mines no problem then a Bedford Truck went over and Lt Cyril Le Rue was killed along with his driver Gunner Edwin Warburton (both of 338 Battery). Lt Col Thompson was following behind and his jeep drove into the crater caused by the explosion. The lead vehicle circled across the fields and the column reversed away from the carnage.

Ironically, the day before, an unknown unit exploded another mine killing one individual. The incident was not reported.

Although 102 LAA reported the presence of mines, a man from 62 Anti tank was killed on the 25th.

My guide showed me the spot where it happened and the information of these events came from a German Pioneer soldier he interviewed shortly before his death. (The man was also responsible for the charge which destroyed St CatherineKerk in Hoogstraaten on the 23rd October).

The men were buried in what is now a car park before being interred elsewhere in CWGC cemeteries. A photo of the temporary graves is being sent to me sometime later.

The first photo shows the spot where the incident occurred and the second is where a car park is now built. The 3rd photo is of what is now a prison which was there in 1944. The 4th photo is of the 102 LAA graves at Leopoldsburg. Francis Huijbrechts my guide, said that he obtained permission to check the location before the carpark was built and they found a number of 303 bullets scattered where the graves were located.

This was one of the many things I was lucky to experience during my short stay in Belgium.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 02:57 PM

In the village of Lonneker very near to my home town there is only one War grave that of a RAF flying officer.Maybe it is of some one's interest so here it is.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 03:40 PM

Robert just finished cataloguing all the photos posted. Again thank you very much.

Cheers
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Posted 27 September 2009 - 04:50 PM

Thanks Tom

It was a great trip and I'm trying to get the headstone photos sorted before I do anything else.

This is a photo of my Sister and I at Leopoldsburg in front of 2 men from my Dad's Regiment. Lt Cyril Le Rue and Gunner Edwin Warburton were blown up by a mine in Wortel Kolonie on 24 October 1944 whilst operating as Infantry. 49 Infantry Division were very stretched at the time and put Anti Tank and LAA men into the line during an advance. 62 AT, 86 LAA & 102 LAA Regiments were part of the adhoc force (Bob Force) that was put together for this task. There was another called ImpForce, but I don't know the units involved.

Regards - Robert.


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Have a mention in the diary of "River Force", don't know if they were part of the same formation.
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20th February.
A cloudy day with considerable fog and ground mist.
12.00 A very quiet day, the OP registered several targets to be used for HF. Little information coming in.
18.00 Sitrep received from 49th Div. Regiment took over the 3rd Can Regt RHQ billets, adjacent to our own RHQ to provide more accommodation.
20.15 Captain Holford the rep with 130 Bde. 43rd (W) Div (River Force) returned as not now required having been relieved by the 1st Heavy Regt rep.
Rounds fired 160.

Limited advances only were made during the day. The 2nd Can Div was counter-attacked throughout the day and night by infantry, tanks, and SP guns and the firing carried out by the regiments was mostly defensive.
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