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#1 L J

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 04:31 PM

Remembrance Day is nearing (8 november ? )and maybe it is appropriate to mention the losses (deaths )of the British aristocracy in wwII .The losses of WW I are probably reserved for an other forum . From memory(I can't find my notes ) some names,the list is off-course incomplete,I hope that the members of this forum can add other names . The earl of Erne,Lord Davies,the only son of countess Roberts,the brother of the marquess Cambridge,a son of lord Halifax,a son of A.Eden(later lord Avon ),the Marquess of Lansdowne and his brother,a son of the duke of Grafton,a son of lord Cranborne,the 2nd and 3rd lord Shuttlewoth,a son of the earl of Home,the duke of Devonshire lost a son,a son -in-law and a brother,the duke of Northumberland,the duke of Wellington,the duke of Kent,the duke of Connaught ,the marquess of Dufferin ......

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 04:35 PM

The Hon. Lt. Christopher Furness VC, 1st Battalion, Welsh Guards

Killed near Arras 24th May 1940 and remembered on the Dunkirk Memorial.
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 05:23 PM

Typing 'Viscount' into the 'Including' box on Geoff's search engine turns up a fair few scions, along with a senior aristo or two:

Search results for: + viscount. records found: 37

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001 BAIRD RAG 70789 115 SQDN 14/07/1943 ROYAL AIR FORCE
002 BENN MJW 103589 21 SQDN 23/06/1944 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
003 BERRY JD 124533 3RD BN 10/10/1944 GRENADIER GUARDS
004 BROOKE HA 259934 A SQN 10TH ROYAL HUSSARS 17/04/1945 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
005 BYNG G - HMS KONGONI 15/07/1944 ROYAL NAVY
006 CAIRNS HWJ 38311 CDG 7TH MOTOR BDE GROUP 03/07/1942 GENERAL STAFF
007 CECIL RHV 1602912 - 12/08/1944 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
008 CLEGG-HILL FR 40864 4TH BN 13/04/1945 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY
009 COLVILLE CA - HMS HESPERIDES 14/03/1945 ROYAL NAVY
010 COVENTRY GWRV 7903 7TH BN 27/05/1940 WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
011 CRICHTON JHG 38699 ATTD 12TH ROYAL LANCERS 23/05/1940 ROYAL HORSE GUARDS
012 CROSS RG 210856 578 FIELD COY 13/05/1944 ROYAL ENGINEERS
013 DAWSON-DAMER GLS - 600 SQDN 17/04/1944 ROYAL AIR FORCE (AUXILIARY AIR FORCE)
014 DUNDAS RMSM 79150 1ST LOTHIANS AND BORDER HORSE 05/06/1940 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
015 FAIRWEATHER M - - 04/08/1944 AIR TRANSPORT AUXILIARY
016 FINCASTLE EDM 37535 4TH BN 05/06/1940 QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
017 FINDLAY CDC 122485 - 28/08/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
018 FURNESS C 53422 1ST BN 24/05/1940 WELSH GUARDS
019 GORT JSSPV - AND COMMANDS AND STAFF 31/03/1946 GRENADIER GUARDS
020 GUINNESS AOE 53827 218 BTY, 55 THE SUFFOLK YEOMANRY ANTI TANK REGT 08/02/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
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021 HAMILTON-RUSSELL AGL 22389 1ST BN 26/05/1940 RIFLE BRIGADE
022 HAMILTON-RUSSELL DC 94896 1ST ROYAL DRAGOONS 19/04/1943 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
023 HAMILTON-RUSSELL J 52641 1ST THE ROYAL DRAGOONS 19/08/1943 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
024 HAMILTON-RUSSELL GL 41136 - 02/06/1940 GRENADIER GUARDS
025 HERBERT MH 86326 157 SQDN 23/03/1943 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
026 LONG WRB 77543 2 HAA REGT 26/04/1941 - - 27/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
027 LONG WFD 50864 5TH BN 23/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
028 LOWTHER JA - HMS PRESIDENT 25/08/1942 ROYAL NAVAL VOLUNTEER RESERVE
029 MAITLAND ICJM 94405 2ND LOTHIANS AND BORDER HORSE 18/01/1943 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
030 MOLESWORTH JVC 73137 ATTD 77TH INDIAN INF BDE 07/06/1943 DUKE OF CORNWALL'S LIGHT INFANTRY
031 PORTMAN ECB 42507 - 14/07/1942 LIFE GUARDS
032 PRESTON SET 228338 1ST BN 30/01/1944 IRISH GUARDS
033 PRESTON JWR 107447 2/4TH BN 09/06/1940 KING'S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY
034 SOUTHWELL JM - HMS LANDRAIL 22/12/1944 ROYAL NAVY
035 STUART DAN 232729 11TH HUSSARS 10/11/1942 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
036 STUART RJO 311623 B SQN, 9TH QUEEN'S ROYAL LANCERS, 17/09/1944 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
037 TRENCHARD H 186879 6TH BN 17/03/1943 GRENADIER GUARDS


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Other ranks/honours are harder, (Duke, Earl, Baron, etc.) due to their appearance in unit fields etc. No doubt someone has a list somewhere
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 06:11 PM

Von Poop:thank you very much for this very quick reply,I had to consult page by page the Who was Who 1941-1950 and 1951-1960,it took my hours
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 06:15 PM

the Marquess of Lansdowne and his brother,


Dbf & myself have posted some info & photos of them on this forum.
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 06:59 PM

Dbf & myself have posted some info & photos of them on this forum.

Owen,thank you for the information;I think both were killed in Italy .
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 07:06 PM

Owen,thank you for the information;I think both were killed in Italy .


One in Italy , other in Normandy.


http://www.ww2talk.c...wood-house.html


see post #40 onwards on this thread

http://www.ww2talk.c...html#post141203
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 07:24 PM

Freddy Lewin, Countess Roberts' son, killed on Chobry when she was bombed Norway, 1940. An account posted under my 1bn Irish Guards thread.
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Lieutenant FREDERICK ROBERTS ALEXANDER LEWIN 67054, 1st Bn., Irish Guards who died age 25 on 15 May 1940
Son of Brigadier-General Henry Frederick Elliott Lewin, C.B., C.M.G., D.L., J.P., and of Ada Edwina Stewart Lewin, Countess Roberts, O.B.E., of Ascot, Berkshire.
Remembered with honour BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL

From The Times, May 25, 1940:

Obituary - FALLEN OFFICERS
MR. F.R.A. LEWIN

Mr. J.H. Morgan, K.C., writes:-
Freddy Lewin was greatly loved by all who knew him and he will be deeply mourned not only by the friends of his family, whose hearts go out to his sorrowing parents so sorely stricken, but by many humble folk in the neighbourhood of his beautiful home on the Wiltshire Downs and by many Indians of all classes and of every creed.X The last time I saw him was when, in 1937, I spent a day with him and his batter in Meerut, and the eager welcome he had received in India as the heir to the great name of "Bobs Bahadur" had done nothing to spoil a nature which was utterly unaffected and instinctively modest.X

The son of a distinguished soldier, the grandson of one Field-Marshal and the godson of another, he had gone into the Army as one dedicated to it and predestine although by no means robust, and, as is so often the case with shy and sensitive spirits, nervous and highly strung.

He was not only a gallant soldier but a man of intellectual gifts, and he had looked forward, before the shadows of war began to deepen, to exchanging the Army in due course for a political career, for which he had every qualification, and it is tragic to recall that he confided to a friend in those days, now so incredibly remote, his apprehension that his ultimate succession to the peerage would close the door of the House of Commons to his public-spirited hopes and ambitions.

When the call to arms came he obeyed it cheerfully with "the frolic welcome" with which he always took the thunder no less than sunshine, and it was characteristic of his intrepid spirit that, having been temporarily invalided with a devastating attack of influenza, he rejoined his regiment to face the rigours of service when he was still far from well.X

Strikingly handsome, with a frank, open countenance, and a most winning charm of manner, Freddy Lewin was one of those whom the gods love.


Edited by dbf, 07 December 2009 - 10:50 AM.
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 07:42 PM

LJ,
If you google "burke's peerage, killed in second world war" there are quite a few 'hits'; worth cross referencing with your list ...
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:02 PM

Freddy Lewin, Countess Roberts' son, killed on Chobry when she was bombed Norway, 1940. An account posted under my 1bn Irish Guards thread.
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Also perished in the same incident, The Hon. Brian O'Neill
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Must check through my list for others, bound to be more

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Thank for the information and the source,I had read that Lewin was killed at Dunkirk .
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:03 PM

One in Italy , other in Normandy.


http://www.ww2talk.c...wood-house.html


see post #40 onwards on this thread

http://www.ww2talk.c...html#post141203

Owen,thank you for the rectification .
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:16 PM

Some other names :Lord Lytton,Lord Zetland,Lord Bessborough,Lord Swinton, Oliver Lyttelton:all lost a son. The earl of Verulam and Sir Basil Brooke lost 2 sons .It seems that this depressing list is endless .
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:25 PM

The Times, Saturday, May 25, 1940

Obituary
FALLEN OFFICERS

MR. F.R.A. LEWIN

Mr. J.H. Morgan, K.C., writes:-
Freddy Lewin was greatly loved by all who knew him and he will be deeply mourned not only by the friends of his family, whose hearts go out to his sorrowing parents so sorely stricken, but by many humble folk in the neighbourhood of his beautiful home on the Wiltshire Downs and by many Indians of all classes and of every creed. The last time I saw him was when, in 1937, I spent a day with him and his batter in Meerut, and the eager welcome he had received in India as the heir to the great name of "Bobs Bahadur" had done nothing to spoil a nature which was utterly unaffected and instinctively modest.

The son of a distinguished soldier, the grandson of one Field-Marshal and the godson of another, he had gone into the Army as one dedicated to it and predestined although by no means robust, and, as is so often the case with shy and sensitive spirits, nervous and highly strung.

He was not only a gallant soldier but a man of intellectual gifts, and he had looked forward, before the shadows of war began to deepen, to exchanging the Army in due course for a political career, for which he had every qualification, and it is tragic to recall that he confided to a friend in those days, now so incredibly remote, his apprehension that his ultimate succession to the peerage would close the door of the House of Commons to his public-spirited hopes and ambitions.

When the call to arms came he obeyed it cheerfully with "the frolic welcome" with which he always took the thunder no less than sunshine, and it was characteristic of his intrepid spirit that, having been temporarily invalided with a devastating attack of influenza, he rejoined his regiment to face the rigours of service when he was still far from well.

Strikingly handsome, with a frank, open countenance, and a most winning charm of manner, Freddy Lewin was one of those whom the gods love.


Edited by dbf, 05 September 2009 - 08:44 PM.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 03:37 PM

North, Lord F. G.
Lord Francis George North, 23157, was a Major in the 144 (The Surrey and Sussex Yeomanry) Field Regiment. He died when he was 39 on 25 August 1940, by stepping on a landmine while out for a stroll. He is buried at Waldershare. His sister, Lady Cynthia Williams, the only daughter of the family, was also killed. Lady North was injured. He was the son of Frederick George North, DL, JP, 8th Earl of Guildford, and of the Countess of Guildford (nee Hargrave Pawson), of Dover, and was the husband of Lady North (nee Burrell), of West Grinstead, Sussex.

This happened near or on their estate just outside Dover. Derek
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:04 PM

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The Hon. JOHN DOUGLAS BERRY
Son of James Gomer Berry, 1st Viscount Kemsley, and Lady Gomer Berry, of Dropmore, Buckinghamshire.

Killed whilst serving in 3 GG in Italy in 1944
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:06 PM

6th Baron BRABOURNE,
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Killed Italy in 1943 serving 6th Gren Gds

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KNATCHBULL, Sir NORTON CECIL MICHAEL
6th Baron Brabourne of Brabourne. Son of Michael Herbert Rudolph Knatchbull, 5th Baron Brabourne, G.C.S.I., G.C.I.E., M.C., and of Lady Brabourne (nee Browne), Imperial Order of the Crown of India (C.I.), Dame of Grace, Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Westminster, London


From The Times, Jun 08, 1945:

Lieut. Lord Brabourne, Grenadier Guards, who was reported missing in March, 1943, is now known to have been shot by the Germans.

On September 15, 1943, he was in north Italy in a prison train from which he made his escape. Shortly after getting away he was recaptured and the Germans shot him the same day. The Right Hon. Sir Norton Cecil Michael Knatchbull, Bt., sixth Baron Brabourne, Kent, in the peerage of the United Kingdom and fifteenth baronet (England) of Mersham Hatch, was born on February 11 1933, and was educated at Eton. He was the elder son of the fifth Lord Brabourne, Governor first of Bombay and then of Bengal, whose career was cut short by his death at Government House, Calcutta, in February, 1939, at the age of 43. Lieutenant Lord Brabourne's younger brother, Lieutenant the Hon. John Ulick Knatchbull, Coldstream Guards, was born on November 9, 1934.

Edited by Owen, 24 October 2009 - 11:24 AM.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:10 PM

3rd Gren Gds , Tunisia
BRAYBROOKE, 8th Baron
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NEVILLE, RICHARD HENRY CORNWALLIS

8th Baron Braybrooke. Elder son of Henry Neville, 7th Baron Braybrooke, M.A., D.L., J.P., and of Dorothy, Lady Braybrooke, of Saffron Walden, Essex. B.A. (Cantab.): Magdalene College. His brother George Robert Latimer Neville also fell.
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NEVILLE, The Hon. GEORGE ROBERT LATIMER
Younger son of Henry Neville, 7th Baron Braybrooke, M.A., D.L., J.P., and of Dorothy Lady Braybrooke, of Saffron Walden, Essex.
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Rank Ordinary Seaman !!!!!
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:13 PM

Killed serving with 5th Gren Gds in Italy.
CANNING, VICTOR STRATFORD DE REDCLIFFE
the Hon.. Son of Leopold Ernest Stratford George Canning, D.L., J.P., 4th Baron Garvagh, and of Lady Garvagh (nee Parker), of Keswick, Cumberland.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:14 PM

killed with 2nd Gren Gds in Normandy.
CORBETT, The Hon. JOHN POLSON
Son of Lt.-Col. Thomas Godfrey Polson Corbett, 2nd Baron Rowallan, M.C., T.D., D.L. (formerly of The Royal Scots Fusiliers), and Lady Rowallan, of Rowallan, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:17 PM

Killed with 4th Gren Gds in Normandy
FITZROY, Lord CHARLES OLIVER EDWARD
Son of Capt. Charles Alfred Euston Fitzroy, J.P., D.L., 10th Duke of Grafton, and the Duchess of Grafton, of Thetford, Norfolk.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:19 PM

Killed serving with 2nd Gren Gds in Belgium , 1944
FRANK, Sir HOWARD FREDERICK
2nd Bt. Son of Sir Howard Frank, G.B.E., K.C.B., F.S.I., 1st Bt., and of Lady Frank, of Kensington, London.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:21 PM

Killed serving with 1st Gren Gds, Holland, 1944
GIBBS, The Hon. VICARY PAUL
Son of Walter Durant Gibbs, 4th Baron Aldenham, and of Lady Aldenham (nee Paul), of Ware, Hertfordshire; husband of Jean Frances Gibbs (nee Harnbro).
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:22 PM

HAMILTON-RUSSELL, The Hon. GUSTAVUS LASCELLES
Son of Gustavus William Hamilton-Russell, J.P., D.L., 9th Viscount Boyne and of Viscountess Boyne, C.B.E. (nee Lascelles), of Bridgnorth. His brother, the Hon. Desmond Claud Hamilton-Russell, also died on service.

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1st Royal Dragoons , Tunisia, 1943
HAMILTON-RUSSELL, The Hon. DESMOND CLAUD
Son of Gustavus William Hamilton-Russell, J.P., D.L., 9th Viscount Boyne, and of the Viscountess Boyne, C.B.E. (nee Lascelles), of Bridgnorth, Shropshire
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:25 PM

Lieutenant Colonel (Lord) HAY, EDWARD DOUGLAS JOHN
Son of William Montagu Hay, 10th Marquess of Tweeddale and the Marchioness Tweeddale; husband of Lady Hay (nee Latham), of Theydon Mount. Also served in the 1914-18 War. Staff Capt. to General Sir Edmund Ironside, 1921. Military Secretary to Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert Samuel from 1921-1923.
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Killed when Guards Chapel hit by a V1.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:27 PM

NORTHUMBERLAND, 9th Duke of
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PERCY, HENRY GEORGE ALAN
9th Duke of Northumberland. Parliamentary Private Secretary to the Lord Privy Seal, 1935. Son of the late Alan Ian Percy, K.G., C.B.E., M.V.O., 8th Duke of Northumberland, and of Helen Magdalen, Duchess of Northumberland.
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Killed serving in 3rd Gren Gds , Belgium 1940

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from The Irish Times, Friday, October 11, 1940



DUKE KILLED IN ACTION

LEAVES £1,400,000

Lieutenant Henry George Alan Percy, of the Grenadier Guards, twenty-seven years old, ninth Duke of Northumberland, who died on active service on May 21, left unsettled estate of the gross value of £1,446, 489. Net personality is £1,092,538, and estate duty of £193,883 has been paid.

Probate of his will and codicil has been granted to his mother, Helen Magdalen, Duchess of Northumberland; his uncle, Lord Eustace Percy, and Lord Halifax, the Foreign Secretary.

The young Duke died while leading a party of forty men of the Grenadier Guards in a bayonet charge against a German machine-gun enfilading British troops near Louvain.

The wife of one of the Guardsmen afterwards told how she had heard that the Duke called for forty volunteers. "The Duke led them in the charge," she said, "but none of them returned. Later the Guards sent out a search party, but found only the body of the Duke." The operation was successful, however. The Duke and his men had given their lives to silence the gun.

In 1936 the Ducal estates in Northumberland were turned into a private company.



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SALTOUN, The Master of
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FRASER, The Hon. ALEXANDER SIMON
Master of Saltoun. Son of Capt. Alexander Arthur Fraser, M.C., 19th Baron Saltoun of Abernethy, and Lady Saltoun (nee Welby), of Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire.

Killed Italy, with 6th Gren Gds
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Lieutenant Colonel (9th Bart) DES VOEUX, Sir WILLIAM RICHARD De B.
CO of 156 PARA
Son of Lt.-Col. Henry John des Voeux, O.B.E., and Dorothy Gladys des Voeux; husband of Lady des Voeux (nee Elkington), of Adbury Holt, Newbury, Berkshire.
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WIGRAM, The Hon. FRANCIS CLIVE
Son of Clive Wigram, P C., G.C.B., G.C.V.O., 1st Baron Wigram, and of Lady Wigram (nee Chamberlain), of Regent's Park, London.
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Killed Salerno with 6th Gren Gds
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 08:21 AM

Name: BACKHOUSE, SIR JOHN EDMUND
Initials: J E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Major
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 179 Field Regt.
Age: 35
Date of Death: 29/08/1944
Service No: 41059
Awards: M C
Additional information: 3rd Bart. Son of Admiral of the Fleet, Sir Roger Roland Charles Backhouse, G.C.B., G.C.V.O., C.M.G., and of Lady Backhouse (nee Findlay); husband of Lady (Jean Marie Frances) Backhouse, of Withypool, Somerset.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. C. 2.
Cemetery: ST. DESIR WAR CEMETERY

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 08:34 AM

During the course of the morning of Sunday 27th August, Major Sir John Backhouse, Second-in-Command of 179 Field Regiment, crossed the bridge to look for a suitable site for his guns. His scout car came under heavy fire from some German guns and he was severely wounded in the head. He died later that day.


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He'd already been wounded back in June.

The next morning Lieut.-Colonel W. D. Blacker was killed by enemy mortaring and Major Sir John Backhouse wounded. This left Major T. M. Brewis in command of the regiment....

the 27th August the bridgehead was large enough for the Armour to break out on its way into Belgium. The Regiments greatest loss at this time was when the Second-in-Command, Major Sir John Backhouse, was killed when looking for forward gun positions. John Backhouse had been everybody’s friend.

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