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#1 joybonjovi

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 06:07 PM

Hi, I am researching a submariner who was lost on HMS Tempest. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission lists his date of death as 23rd. February 1942. HMS Tempest was actually sunk on 13th. February 1942 taking with her half of her crew. On checking dates of death of those who were lost, I find that the majority of them are listed as died on 23rd. February 1942 also. Can anyone explain this? Is it just a mistake or am I missing something?
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#2 Clio

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:40 PM

Probably the date on which the boat was due to return. The date fits the nature of the last patrol ie a patrol line to catch outbound Italian warships in the Gulf of Taranto.
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 07:15 PM

Three are shown as the 13th, with the remainder (of the 37 found in my search) the 23rd February 1942. It lost 37 men out of a complement of 56.

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Three appear to have graves at Bari War Cemetery. The panel references are to various Naval Memorials.

001 BAINES EL P/JX 143981 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 66, COLUMN 3.
002 BURNS J D/JX 140126 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 63, COLUMN 2.
003 BURNS JHP D/JX 167231 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 64, COLUMN 2.
004 CAMERON D C/MX 73098 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 13/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY II. E. 3.
005 CAVAYE WAKN - HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 61, COLUMN 3.
006 COLLETT AH P/KX 88439 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 68, COLUMN 2.
007 COPE TS C/KX 114379 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 62, 1.
008 CRONIN AJ C/JX 266184 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY VII. E. 40.
009 DAVIES GW D/KX 132023 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 70, COLUMN 3.
010 DREW F P/JX 154013 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 66, COLUMN 2.
011 EALES RC D/JX 203162 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 13/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 64, COLUMN 3.
012 FRAIN C P/SSX 23655 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 62, COLUMN 3.
013 GOMER RC D/MX 49082 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 71, COLUMN 3.
014 JACKSON PGW P/JX 157500 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 67, COLUMN 1.
015 JURY AE D/KX 79574 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 69, COLUMN 3.
016 KELLY D D/KX 93894 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 70, COLUMN 2.
017 LAVENDER F C/KX 82135 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 62, 2.
018 LOOSE DEA P/MX 78277 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 67, COLUMN 2.
019 LOWIN ETJ C/SSX 20128 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 52, 2.
020 MEEK JA C/JX 152623 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 55, 2.
021 MORRISON J D/KX 80906 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 70, COLUMN 2.
022 NEEL-WALL MN - HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 62, COLUMN 1.
023 PARSONS GEH C/MX 54986 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVYVII. E. 38.
024 PRITCHARD H C/SSX 33930 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 55, 3.
025 REAR F C/KX 93380 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 62, 3.
026 SANDERS JA D/JX 138319 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 68, COLUMN 1.
027 SHIPLEY E P/LX 21906 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 70, COLUMN 1.
028 SPOWART A P/K 60766 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 67, COLUMN 2.
029 STEVENS FA C/M 37007 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 13/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 60, 1.
030 WADDELL CM C/KX 91739 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 61, 2.
031 WAINWRIGHT RJ D/KX 85580 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 69, COL 2.
032 WATERS CP D/JX 206092 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 66, COLUMN 3.
033 WAUGH A P/SSX 21188 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 65, COLUMN 1.
034 WHITFIELD HC C/SSX 17514 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY 56, 3.
035 WILLIAMS DI D/JX 137378 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 67, COLUMN 1.
036 WINTER JL D/JX 198481 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 67, COLUMN 1.
037 WORTH AG D/JX 153135 HM SUBMARINE TEMPEST 23/02/1942 ROYAL NAVY PANEL 67, COLUMN 1.

Edited by Steve Mac, 29 August 2011 - 07:39 PM.
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#4 Steve Mac

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 07:32 PM

From Wiki, the circumstances surrounding the loss of HMS Tempest.

HMS Tempest (N86) was a T - class submarine of the Royal Navy. She was laid down by Cammell Laird & Co Limited, Birkenhead and launched in June 1941.

Tempest had a short-lived career, serving in the Mediterranean.

She sailed from Malta on the night of 10 February to patrol the Gulf of Taranto. On the evening of the 11th Tempest was signalled that the Italians were aware of a submarine in her vicinity and that it should be assumed that her patrol had been compromised. On the 13th, Tempest was sighted on the surface by theItalian destroyer Circe. Tempest attempted to dive, but Circe began depth charging the area, eventually resulting in oil being seen on the surface. Tempest had been crippled, and forced to surface, where she was hit by gunfire from the Circe. The crew abandoned the submarine, and were picked up by the destroyer. The Italians attempted to board the abandoned vessel but were unable to, due to rough seas. Unable to board Tempest due to the bad weather, the Italian destroyer opened fire, scoring more than a dozen direct hits, but failing to sink the Tempest. Finally the Italians attempted to take the submarine in tow. Two members of the destroyer’s crew boarded the submarine and prepared the tow. As Circe manoeuvred to take up the tow, Tempest suddenly started to sink, forcing those on board to jump into the sea. HMS Tempest slipped beneath the waves stern-first, with the bows disappearing vertically.
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#5 Clio

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 12:20 PM

I have examined papers in ADM 199/1925 and Tempest was due to return to the Lazaretto on 28.2.11.

Boats in neighbouring billets, notably Una, detected a strong depth-charge attack underway and this had been communicated back to Captain S (10) 13/14.2.42
On 23.2.42, as a direct result of Italian wireless d/fs regarding the transfer of prisoners, Admiralty knew that a T class boat had been lost and that Tempest was the likely victim.

On the other hand ERA Cameron died of wounds following capture and maybe others did too and this may also help account for the 23.2.42 date which has attached to the loss of Tempest in some quarters

Edited by Clio, 31 August 2011 - 12:46 PM.
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