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#1 dntetlow

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:15 PM

I am researching the names that appear on the Cricklade War Memorial - one of these is a William John Parrott - his CWGC details are as follows:

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DEATH: CWGC
Name: PARROTT, WILLIAM JOHN
Initials: W J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 6 Maritime Regt.
Age: 34
Date of Death: 08/05/1945
Service No: 5576240
Additional information: Son of Arthur James Parrott and Amelia Beatrice Parrott, of Filkins; husband of Ellen Parrott.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: FILKINS (ST . PETER) CHURCH CEMETERY

My question is whether or not there is a way of establishing which ships that William would have served on as a gunner? I know that he died of pneumonia at Weston -super-Mare on, of all days, VE Day but do not know what ships he would have seen service on.

As I'm not next of kin (nor do I know who is) I would have thought that accessing his service record would be unlikely to be successful?

Any help much appreciated.

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#2 Drew5233

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:30 PM

Hi David,

I'd try the Royal Artillery Museum at Woolwich called the Retunda.

When I rang up I found the chap I spoke to quite helpful albeit a bit condersending :D

If you find anything out please post it back on here, I never knew there were maritime Royal Artillery Regiments.

Cheers
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#3 Kieron Hill

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:15 PM

Hi David

Below you'll find a link to a Royal Artillery site that has a section
on the Maritime Artillery, My Granddad was a Royal Marine
during WW1 & WW2 and was a gunner on some merchant ships
during the later

RA 1939-45 Maritime

Good luck in your search

Regards
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:19 PM

Cheers for that Kieron....Quite interesting. Its seems the dream sheet posting would be New York :D

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:20 PM

dntetlow,
The best place to research this question would be the firepower museum at Larkhill.
Judging by your location it is only up the road from you and is a fabulous place to see and learn about all things Royal Artillery.Drews advice is another possibility, but i believe the Rotunda is no more and is only manned on rare occasions. All the weapons have been transferred to the aforementioned Firepower museum at Larkhill.
Alternatively, you could post a request on the Royal Artillery Association site. It contains a history section with some fairly knowledgeable contributors who may be able to help in your search.
Good luck...Tom
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:26 PM

Hi Tommy,

I spoke to a guy at the Retunda late last year when I was trying to find out about a WW1 chap called Parnell in the RHA. He was a great help and put me on hold while he went to look for info in some books about his unit in Eygpt.

Needless to say though it was this forum that delivered the Coup de grâce put the final pieces together.

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#7 Hugh MacLean

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 10:40 PM

Hello,
Maritime Royal Artillery gunners are very difficult to trace probably even more so than their counterparts the RN DEMS gunners.

Like the RN gunners, it is unusual but not unknown for for the gunner’s merchant ships to be listed on service records so it is always worth while getting hold of these records.

The only other way to track a gunner on Merchant Navy ships is to know at least one ship, preferably at the end of his service, and then, by the aid of crew agreements which all personnel including military had to sign, we can work back through those as the previous ship is usually shown.

Hope that helps
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Edited by Hugh MacLean, 05 January 2009 - 10:51 PM.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:20 PM

Its while since I researched granddads service history but when I did I found it so interesting, when looking at his service papers it looked like he was based at a shore base HMS President III but amongst his papers I found that there were ships passes for the same dates he would have been there, this confused me but then found out that HMS President III was an accounting base, it was the HQ for the personnel on Defensively Armed Merchant ships (DEMS) and their wages would have been worked out there.

One of the passes is for SS Aguila dated the 26th August 1940 and has him down as a deck hand...an undercover Marine! :D . My granddad died when my Dad was young and stories were told that he was to torpedoed, I have not managed to confirm this, but nearly a year after this pass was dated SS Aguila was torpedoed and sunk by the German U-boat U201 commanded by Kap/Lt. Was he onboard and one of the few that survived?

David never leave a stone unturned in your research....I love it!

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#9 Hugh MacLean

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 06:15 PM

Kieron,

You are right about HMS PRESIDENT being an accounting base and the same is true for HMS WELLESLEY HMS GLENDOWER and others. This is partly why it is so difficult to research these gunners.

Regarding AGUILA official number 140543 built in 1917 and sunk by U201 on 19 Aug 1941, looking at the link below there is no mention of any DEMS survivors. The only way you can be sure if your grandfather was aboard would be to get hold of the final crew agreement for 1941 which is held at TNA in piece BT 381/1347. Like I said earlier all personnel had to sign the ship's Articles of Agreement including gunners. Usually, but not always, this agreement would also show the gunner's previous ship.
DEMS gunners signed the ship's articles as Deckhands and were paid a nominal sum from the ship owner this was to avoid diplomatic problems.

If you need to get the crew agreement in BT 381/1347 and are unsure about how to get it then give a shout back.
You have probably seen this page: Aguila (Steam passenger ship) - Allied Ships hit by U-boats - uboat.net

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 06:56 PM

Thanks Hugh for the info, I have his original service records but took
a trip to Kew to see if I could find anything else fro example gunnery
training due to the different weapons being used. I can see some new entries for the 40's but you can not work them out, do you know what
sort of weapons training DEM's went through?

Thanks again for the info
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:51 PM

Found these on Sunday while photographing my RAAF lads at Springvale CWGC cemetery.

Any clues or info on them?

They rest in beautiful surroundings.

Attached File  Springvale Cemetery 049.jpg   975.94K   26 downloads

Attached File  Springvale Cemetery 149.jpg   1.24MB   22 downloads

Attached File  Springvale Cemetery 218.jpg   1.92MB   12 downloads
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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
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My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 07 January 2009 - 09:36 PM

Thanks Hugh for the info, I have his original service records but took
a trip to Kew to see if I could find anything else fro example gunnery
training due to the different weapons being used. I can see some new entries for the 40's but you can not work them out, do you know what
sort of weapons training DEM's went through?

Thanks again for the info


Hello Kieron,

Don't know much about the training but maybe this site will give some indication - you may have seen it already. It is Canadian but factual. D.E.M.S.: Naval Gunners in Defensively Equipped Merchant Ships (DEMS)

In the early stages of the war at least, the Maritime RA were responsible for the anti-aircraft guns aboard the merchant ships.

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#13 Hugh MacLean

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 10:01 PM

Found these on Sunday while photographing my RAAF lads at Springvale CWGC cemetery.

Any clues or info on them?

They rest in beautiful surroundings.

[ATTACH]12067[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH]12068[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH]12069[/ATTACH]


Difficult one Geoff, as stated previously MRA gunners are difficult to research. We only know they were 4 Maritime Regt, RA. It could be possible that they were aboard Australian/NewZealand merchant ships and died of wounds sustained on any attack at sea. One thing for sure, though, to be buried at Springvale I state the obvious and they must have died ashore otherwise they would have been buried at sea.

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 07:49 AM

This is our first lad - Gerrard J. Wells.

In Memory of
Lance Bombardier GERRARD J. WELLS

13023375,
4 Maritime Regt., Royal Artillery who died age 23, on 26 July 1943
Son of Lowden and Mary Wells, of Warrington, Lancashire, England, husband of Edith Wells, of Warrington.
Remembered with honour
SPRINGVALE WAR CEMETERY, MELBOURNE



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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
-------------------------------------------------------
My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 08 January 2009 - 07:57 AM

This is the other lad!

In Memory of
Gunner JAMES WARDLEY

7690294,
7 Bty., 4 Maritime Regt, Royal Artillery
who died on 18 October 1942
Son of James William and Annie Wardley, of Hyde, Cheshire, England; husband of Ethel Wardley, of Hyde.
Remembered with honour
SPRINGVALE WAR CEMETERY, MELBOURNE

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Spidge,


My project is the collection of over 11,400+ RAAF Headstone/Memorial photos located in 70 countries during WW2 and the 360+ from WW1. Can you assist? Do you know someone that can?
-------------------------------------------------------
My Signature photo is the Battalion history of WW2 and the patch of the 2/8th battalion. (Blood & Bandages)
My Avatar is my dad, Gunner Frederick Edwin Swallow "C" Company, 2/8th Battalion, 19th Brigade, 6th Division AIF. Critically wounded on the first attack on Tobruk, January 21st 1941.



 


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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:50 PM

Just to correct a slight error in an earlier post, Firepower is actually located on the old Woolwich Arsenal site. There was a plan to transfer it to Larkhill, but it was deemed too expensive. The Rotunda is closed but the Librarian at Firepower is extremely knowledgeable and very helpful

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:38 AM

Name:MacPHEE, IAN
Initials:I
Nationality:United Kingdom
Rank:BombardierRegiment/Service:Royal ArtilleryUnit Text:1/1 Maritime Regt.
Age:21
Date of Death:07/02/1943
Service No:3314633
Additional information:Son of Murdoch MacPhee, and of Catherine MacPhee (nee MacLellan), of Cardonald, Glasgow.
Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:Panel 80, Column 2.Memorial:
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:poppy:
Hi There ,
Please let me introduce myself , my name is Brian Watters and I've been trying to find some details about the death of my uncle Ian MacPhee who was a Royal Artillery gunner on Mechant ships during ww2. He was killed on the 7th Feb,1943 when his ship was sunk. I thought I had found his ship as I found his name on a list from the Naval History web site, casualty list where he is listed with the casualties from the Convoy Rescue Ship Toward sunk on the same day. However I was later given some contradictory information by my aunt who was told years ago that he was killed on a ship called the Emperor Mordred and was sunk off Gibraltar.
When i looked up the list there is indeed a ship called the Empire Mordred sunk by mine on the same day as Toward and the position was just exiting the Mediterranean. I am more inclined to believe the story my aunt tells me as she is sure it's what one of Ian's friends who survived the sinking told my granfather.
I am a little confused though as all the names listed under Toward are pretty much all on the same panel on Portsmouth Memorial including a Mr. James Catchpole who was the sick berth attendant and was definitely lost on the RS Toward.

Royal Navy casualties, killed and died, February 1943

Is it normal for the men to appear on the memorials together with their comrades from the same ship or is by date lost ?

Could this be where there is a possibility to get ships casualties mixed up ?

Is Kew the only place I can get further information or is there anywhere I can look on the internet. Its a bit difficult for me to as I am also on a ship and can only access information through the internet.

Any information and information would be greatly appreciated.

I find the website increadibly interesting and a lot of what i have found out already was from reading previous posts etc.

Thanks and best regards to everyone

Brian
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:42 AM

ooops , I'm very sorry . I intended to start a new thread and didnt mean to hijack this thread. Apologies

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 08:43 PM

Hello Brian and welcome.

Maritime Royal Artillery gunners on Merchant Navy ships are difficult to research, but we have the basis to move this one forward.

TOWARD was acting as the convoy rescue ship for convoy SC 118 and had picked up a number of survivors from ships torpedoed in that convoy; TOWARD was herself also torpedoed.

EMPIRE MORDRED was lost just west of Gibraltar to a mine. The position was not anywhere near the position of TOWARD and convoy SC 118, both ships were lost on the same day.

I think the best way to proceed with this one would be to tackle the easiest of the unknowns first: EMPIRE MORDRED. Various sources indicate there were three gunners lost in the sinking and I can only find two. Could the third be Ian MacPhee? We know that all military gunners aboard merchant ships signed the ships's articles of agreement so aquiring EMPIRE MORDRED's agreement should prove he was aboard or not at the time of her loss.

The crew agreement should be held at the British National Archives in piece BT 381/2658 If you wish to obtain this file, hit the link then hit "Request this" then take the digital express option and follow instructions. It is important that you ask for the "LAST crew agreement for EMPIRE MORDRED official number 168726 lost February 1943" The cost will be £8.50 GBP for up to 10 document pages sent direct to your email address on a no find no fee basis - 24 hour service.

Before you do that, however, I would wait and see if there is a reply to my question raised on Mercantile Marine: Conflicting Information - Mercantile Marine

If EMPIRE MORDRED is not the ship then we can explore others.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:02 AM

Its while since I researched granddads service history but when I did I found it so interesting, when looking at his service papers it looked like he was based at a shore base HMS President III but amongst his papers I found that there were ships passes for the same dates he would have been there, this confused me but then found out that HMS President III was an accounting base, it was the HQ for the personnel on Defensively Armed Merchant ships (DEMS) and their wages would have been worked out there.

One of the passes is for SS Aguila dated the 26th August 1940 and has him down as a deck hand...an undercover Marine! :D . My granddad died when my Dad was young and stories were told that he was to torpedoed, I have not managed to confirm this, but nearly a year after this pass was dated SS Aguila was torpedoed and sunk by the German U-boat U201 commanded by Kap/Lt. Was he onboard and one of the few that survived?

David never leave a stone unturned in your research....I love it!

Regards
Kieron


K, one of the guys on my list to research was Assistant Steward on the Agulia when she went down. The info that I have is that only 16 crew memb ers survived, some of them later lost when their rescue ship went down.

SS AGUILA (August 19, 1941)
Commodore ship of Convoy OG-71 en route to Gibraltar from Liverpool. The convoy, consisting of twenty three merchant ships and escorted by six corvettes and two destroyers, was attacked by German submarines while off the south western coast of Ireland. On board the Aguila were twenty-two W.R.N.S., (Women's Royal Navy Service) the first batch of girls who had volunteered for cipher and wireless duties on the 'Rock'. Also on board were many servicemen, all naval personnel, taking the Aguila's complement to 161. Soon after midnight, the U-204 fired two torpedoes at the convoy and hitting the destroyer HMS Bath, which was manned by the Royal Norwegian Navy. She sank within three minutes drowning 83 of her crew, 13 of whom were British. Another torpedo, this time from the U-201, hit the Aguila amidships sending her to the bottom in ninety seconds. There were only 16 badly injured survivors, leaving a death toll of 145.
The dreadful, unbelievable truth, was that not one of the twenty two Wrens had survived. Captain Arthur Firth and nine others were rescued by the destroyer HMS Wallflower. Six of the crew were rescued by the tug 'Empire Oak' but sadly lost three days later when the tug was torpedoed by the U-564. As a tribute to their memory, a lifeboat named 'Aguila Wren' was built and launched on June 28, 1952, for the Royal National Lifeboat Institution. (This lifeboat is now in the hands of a private owner, Tim Kirton of Northumberland and is being restored)
Before the Convoy OG-71 reached its destination, eight of its ships had been sunk plus two escort vessels with a loss of nearly 400 lives)

unlikely that he was onboard given the seriousness of the injuries sustained, as Im sure you would have known about them.

Phil

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:18 AM

Name:MacPHEE, IAN
Initials:I
Nationality:United Kingdom
Rank:BombardierRegiment/Service:Royal ArtilleryUnit Text:1/1 Maritime Regt.
Age:21
Date of Death:07/02/1943
Service No:3314633
Additional information:Son of Murdoch MacPhee, and of Catherine MacPhee (nee MacLellan), of Cardonald, Glasgow.
Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:Panel 80, Column 2.Memorial:
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:poppy:
Hi There ,
Please let me introduce myself , my name is Brian Watters and I've been trying to find some details about the death of my uncle Ian MacPhee who was a Royal Artillery gunner on Mechant ships during ww2. He was killed on the 7th Feb,1943 when his ship was sunk. I thought I had found his ship as I found his name on a list from the Naval History web site, casualty list where he is listed with the casualties from the Convoy Rescue Ship Toward sunk on the same day. However I was later given some contradictory information by my aunt who was told years ago that he was killed on a ship called the Emperor Mordred and was sunk off Gibraltar.
When i looked up the list there is indeed a ship called the Empire Mordred sunk by mine on the same day as Toward and the position was just exiting the Mediterranean. I am more inclined to believe the story my aunt tells me as she is sure it's what one of Ian's friends who survived the sinking told my granfather.
I am a little confused though as all the names listed under Toward are pretty much all on the same panel on Portsmouth Memorial including a Mr. James Catchpole who was the sick berth attendant and was definitely lost on the RS Toward.

Royal Navy casualties, killed and died, February 1943

Is it normal for the men to appear on the memorials together with their comrades from the same ship or is by date lost ?

Could this be where there is a possibility to get ships casualties mixed up ?

Is Kew the only place I can get further information or is there anywhere I can look on the internet. Its a bit difficult for me to as I am also on a ship and can only access information through the internet.

Any information and information would be greatly appreciated.

I find the website increadibly interesting and a lot of what i have found out already was from reading previous posts etc.

Thanks and best regards to everyone

Brian


Brian, welcome aboard.

As Toward was a convoy rescue ship, it is possible that your man had been rescued from the vessel that he was serving on, only to be lost when the Rescue Ship was torpedoed.

Toward was lost whist sailing with convoy SC-118

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:20 PM

Thank you so much for taking the touble to help me Phil.
I thought this might have been the case but i looked up the ships on a U-boat web site and the convoys they were on were in different locations as Hugh mentioned on the previous page.
I have just got some information via Hughs contacts on the Merchant Marine website to confirm Ian was on the Empire Mordred.
I am touched how helpful everyone has been in helping me , and in reading the assistance other have recieved while going over other posts. It seems the memory of these fine men who sacrificed so much for us and our country is well honoured in these pages.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:20 PM


Before you do that, however, I would wait and see if there is a reply to my question raised on Mercantile Marine: Conflicting Information - Mercantile Marine
Hugh


Brian,
If you go to Mercantile Marine you will see that my friend Billy McGee has confirmed (from the Deaths at Sea Register) that your uncle Ian McPhee was a DEMS gunner lost aboard EMPIRE MORDRED.

You will note he is recorded as a Deck Hand this is normal for military gunners on board Merchant Navy ships.

**Ah we must have been typing at the same time**

Regards
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Edited by Hugh MacLean, 28 May 2009 - 06:26 PM.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:32 PM

Hello Brian and welcome.

Maritime Royal Artillery gunners on Merchant Navy ships are difficult to research, but we have the basis to move this one forward.

TOWARD was acting as the convoy rescue ship for convoy SC 118 and had picked up a number of survivors from ships torpedoed in that convoy; TOWARD was herself also torpedoed.

EMPIRE MORDRED was lost just west of Gibraltar to a mine. The position was not anywhere near the position of TOWARD and convoy SC 118, both ships were lost on the same day.

I think the best way to proceed with this one would be to tackle the easiest of the unknowns first: EMPIRE MORDRED. Various sources indicate there were three gunners lost in the sinking and I can only find two. Could the third be Ian MacPhee? We know that all military gunners aboard merchant ships signed the ships's articles of agreement so aquiring EMPIRE MORDRED's agreement should prove he was aboard or not at the time of her loss.

The crew agreement should be held at the British National Archives in piece BT 381/2658 If you wish to obtain this file, hit the link then hit "Request this" then take the digital express option and follow instructions. It is important that you ask for the "LAST crew agreement for EMPIRE MORDRED official number 168726 lost February 1943" The cost will be £8.50 GBP for up to 10 document pages sent direct to your email address on a no find no fee basis - 24 hour service.

Before you do that, however, I would wait and see if there is a reply to my question raised on Mercantile Marine: Conflicting Information - Mercantile Marine

If EMPIRE MORDRED is not the ship then we can explore others.

Regards
Hugh


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Hi Hugh,
I checked your entry on the Mercantile Marine website and saw Billys response with the list attached which confirms that Ian was on the Empire Mordred.
Thank you so very much for taking the time to clarify this for me, I will
pass on this definitive information to my mother and my aunts who wanted to know what had really happened to their big brother.
It seems they had heard some details of what had happened to Ian but were never sure if it was a true account. The story there were told was that his ship was bombed (she was mined) and that Ian was lost overboard, Ian's pal who had survived the sinking told my grandfather confidentially there was no chance he could have survived as even if he wasnt killed in the explosion the water was full of sharks and no one who went into the water was saved. All survivors were picked up from part of the ship that stayed afloat.
In some ways I am grateful for the conflicting information as it meant I had to read a bit about the convoys and the role these small armed merchant ships played who escorted them time and time and time again knowing the submarine threat was ever present. It is quite humbling to read their story and I am amazed at the bravery and fortitude of these men.
I was particularly struck by the story of The RS.Toward who escorted 45 convoys across the Atlantic at the hight of the battle of the Atlantic, she picked up 164 survivors of various ships on her outward journey to Canada after the convoy she was a part of was attacked by a wolfpack of 19 u-boats , they turned round and went straight back out again to face a return journey where a wolfpack of 20 U-boats were waiting for them. That courage to go back into the North Atlantic in February knowing what would be waiting for them is truly inspirational. Sadly they were sunk while picking up survivors from another vessel that had been torpedoed but had rescued over 300 people during those 45 convoys.

Thank you again for your help and I will be sure to raise a glass to the memory of my Uncle Ian and all those other dear brave men of the convoys when i next get ashore.

Best regards to all the contibuters

Brian Watters
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 12:07 PM

Hi Brian,

I have just applied for my grandfathers papers. He was in the 6th Maritime Regiment. What sort of information do they contain. Should I expect to get some convoy names, ships etc?? Also he was a Guardsman as well. Do you think this would be included.

Fantastic to read through this thread. Well done to all involved
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Posted 06 June 2009 - 02:24 PM

Hi Brian,

I have just applied for my grandfathers papers. He was in the 6th Maritime Regiment. What sort of information do they contain. Should I expect to get some convoy names, ships etc?? Also he was a Guardsman as well. Do you think this would be included.

Fantastic to read through this thread. Well done to all involved


Regarding Maritime Royal Artillery gunners, don't expect to have the names of ships, convoys etc given. Generally this information is not usual on a military gunner's service record but, that said, I have seen it on a couple of occasions. Perhaps you could let us know when you receive your grandfather's record.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 07:33 PM

Regarding Maritime Royal Artillery gunners, don't expect to have the names of ships, convoys etc given. Generally this information is not usual on a military gunner's service record but, that said, I have seen it on a couple of occasions. Perhaps you could let us know when you receive your grandfather's record.

Regards
Hugh


Ive received my grandfathers records. They only include his 12 years service pre-war in the Scots Guards?? We gave them his number he had in the Maritime regiment but the records dont inlcude anything about the Maritime Regiment? Can anyone advise?

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 01:42 AM

DD,
Longshot perhaps but a lot of LCTs converted to LCG (Landing Craft Gun) and possibly LCT® (rocket) were Royal Marine crewed, maybe some other LCT variants as well. Try WW2 Combined Operations (Geoff Slee) - fascinating site - or The LST and Landing Craft Association home page (Tony Chapman).

Best of luck,

Mike
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#29 james archibald

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 06:32 AM

Hi my name is jim archibald,my father john thomas archibald joined the black watch in 1925 served in india for 5yrs,later demobed was recalled 1939 where he was assigned to the maritime royal artillery.i think the colonel was tapp,anyway my question is did service men volinteer for this posting as a machine gunner. His medals were 1939-45 star atlantic star pacific star with burma clasp defence medal and war medal 1939-45
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 07:56 PM

Defensively Equipped Merchant Ships (D.E.M.S) - Your Archives

This page from the Nat Archives gives a basic outline of the DEMS



ARMS FOR MERCHANT SHIPS - British Pathe


Regards John:poppy:

Edited by Groundhugger, 09 November 2011 - 08:04 PM.

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